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Michael-5 said:

I don't own the game, but I'm not motivated to play it because it just looks bland. Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play, and had a unique and interesting story. Wii games don't drop in price as fast as PS3 and 360 games do, so why pick up even Conduit 1 for $30 when I can get Vanquish, a much newer and better game, for the same price?

Shooters don't work on Wii, unless they offer an interesting story and art direction. No developer puts enough effort into hardcore Wii games.

Goldeneye on the Wii is awesome!  The multiplayer and single player are really good.




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Viper1 said:
Michael-5 said:

Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play,

Shooters don't work on Wii

There are a whole host of gamers and media that highly, highly disagree with you on these points.  I'm both.

But, if you prefer, you can use the GC controller or the Classic Controller.

When I say shooters don't work on the Wii, it's not because of the controls, oh no, the controls are great. It's because Nintendo doesn't publish any FPS's other then Metroid Prime, which is technically a First Person Adventure game. Third Party software hasn't seen very many polished FPS's on the Wii.

It's the developers fault, not the console. Yes Red Steel 2 is pretty good, but what else is there? Conduit 1 and 2 generally got 7.5-8/10 scores. How many PS3/360 shooters come out every year that get that rating? Already this year there is Dead Space 2, Homefront, Crysis 2, Killzone 3, and BulletStorm, and I've very excited about Uncharted 3, Gears 3, Mass Effect 3, L.A. Noire, Duke Nukem, and Resistance 3.



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chriscox1121 said:
Michael-5 said:

I don't own the game, but I'm not motivated to play it because it just looks bland. Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play, and had a unique and interesting story. Wii games don't drop in price as fast as PS3 and 360 games do, so why pick up even Conduit 1 for $30 when I can get Vanquish, a much newer and better game, for the same price?

Shooters don't work on Wii, unless they offer an interesting story and art direction. No developer puts enough effort into hardcore Wii games.

Goldeneye on the Wii is awesome!  The multiplayer and single player are really good.

Argueable. One of my more casual gamers, who is a big Goldeneye fan, really hates the Wii version because to him it looks like the exact same game, with no visual upgrade. To be honest I largely agree with him, graphics in that game are not that much above Red Steel 1, which means they suck.

Either way, good or bad, this is a ported N64 game with added Wii-Mote controls. It is not a new experience, and I honestly prefer the N64 version, so why even bother getting this?

Also, Quantum of Solice, a 2008 360/PS3/PC game, is a better game, and from what I've heard about Blood Stone (a new James Bond game, not based on any film), thats better then Goldeneye as well.

Shooters don't work on the Wii, I'm sorry, other then Metroid Prime and Red Steel 2, there aren't really any unique shooters on the Wii that I can't live without. I own a Wii, and I don't mind anybody who tries to change my opinion. Wii is better for Pikmin 3, WHERE IS PIKMIN 3!? lol



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RaptorGTA said:
Michael-5 said:

I don't own the game, but I'm not motivated to play it because it just looks bland. Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play, and had a unique and interesting story. Wii games don't drop in price as fast as PS3 and 360 games do, so why pick up even Conduit 1 for $30 when I can get Vanquish, a much newer and better game, for the same price?

Shooters don't work on Wii, unless they offer an interesting story and art direction. No developer puts enough effort into hardcore Wii games.


MP3 wasnt a FPS..it had shooter elements (remember that debate on VGChartz). Personally Conduit 2 story is great. The conspiracy oject add an intersting twist to history..well other are just interesting to begin with. Also, with the change between the first conduit to this...i would say with confident that if any developer put effort into a game its HVS.

 

and as for shooters dont work on the wii I really have to disagree with you man. The wii mote to me is like a mouse...Id take the wiimote over my xbox controller any day.

 

and to those worried about the reviews..I dont get it. I really dont. I havent had a chance to read all of the reviews and pick them apart. Id say a fair score for Conduit 2 is anywhere from 7.9 to 8.4. The improvements from the first to the second shows a game evolving rather then just be redone for a profit. The single player has a nice mix of..modes?..missions?.idk what to call it (not wanting to give away levels and bosses)..and the hidden items and messages are great. 

 

There are some meh things about the game.

1. I hate ladders...in any FPS..and the ones in the conduit 2 are a pain. you get stuck on em..

2. bad voice acting..minus Adams actor...the rest are meh..

3. the lock on feature can be a little random. Ive been able to lock on to enemies (single player only) who werent in the same room.

4. Music and voice overs can be drowned out. needs to be better mixed.

5. I miss the Trust logo puzzles...i was hoping for more

6. Would have liked more locations.

 

those are my current complaints...but their not bad. Just a pain but I still enjoyed this game.

I acknowedge that Metroid Prime is a First Person Adventure game, I often classify it as a shooter because I still see MP as a shooter. Just like Uncharted is a shooter, this is too, but FPA is the primary genre.

Also I'm not debating the Wii-mote controls, they are great for shooters, MP3 was awesome, but no developer puts the time and effort to make a good Wii shooter. The best Wii shooters get 8/10 scores, and are honestly bland when compared to something as polished as Killzone, Vanquish, Halo, or Dead Space.

8/10 is passable for me, unless it's a franchise I personally favor (like Front Mission, or Fire Emblem). I have literally about 70 360 games, almost all of them are above 8/10, but I think I should have turned down a few 8/10's. I mean I bought DMC4 for $20 and only played it for an hour, I should have turned that game down and picked it up more recently when I have the time to play it.

So if 7.9-8.4/10 is the best Wii has for shooters, that to me is pretty bland. I just wish Nintendo got one shooter title, as unique and interesting as Vanquish was. That to me felt like a Nintendo-esk shooter, due to all the corny lines, and sterotypical characters.



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Michael-5 said:
Viper1 said:
Michael-5 said:

Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play,

Shooters don't work on Wii

There are a whole host of gamers and media that highly, highly disagree with you on these points.  I'm both.

But, if you prefer, you can use the GC controller or the Classic Controller.

When I say shooters don't work on the Wii, it's not because of the controls, oh no, the controls are great. It's because Nintendo doesn't publish any FPS's other then Metroid Prime, which is technically a First Person Adventure game. Third Party software hasn't seen very many polished FPS's on the Wii.

It's the developers fault, not the console. Yes Red Steel 2 is pretty good, but what else is there? Conduit 1 and 2 generally got 7.5-8/10 scores. How many PS3/360 shooters come out every year that get that rating? Already this year there is Dead Space 2, Homefront, Crysis 2, Killzone 3, and BulletStorm, and I've very excited about Uncharted 3, Gears 3, Mass Effect 3, L.A. Noire, Duke Nukem, and Resistance 3.


I have to agree here.  While I'm enjoying Conduit 2, really the only Wii FPS (aside from Metroid) that's worth getting over HD comparibles would be Goldeneye.  It's top notch single and multi-player and the split-screen is a ton of fun.

Conduit 2 is fun, worth renting just to see what is possible on Wii graphically/online mulitplayer wise.  But I couldn't advise to buy it over Portal 2 or Gears 3 or ME3 or such.    

If you only own a Wii (like myself now) and are sick of Goldeneye/CoD then for sure - pick it up!



 

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Michael-5 said:

I don't own the game, but I'm not motivated to play it because it just looks bland. Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play, and had a unique and interesting story. Wii games don't drop in price as fast as PS3 and 360 games do, so why pick up even Conduit 1 for $30 when I can get Vanquish, a much newer and better game, for the same price?

Shooters don't work on Wii, unless they offer an interesting story and art direction. No developer puts enough effort into hardcore Wii games.


I find it funny how someone can preach about FPS controls, and then go ahead and talk about the laughably terrible control scheme that are the dual analogs.

OT:

Conduit 2 is kind of good. That's all I can really say about it.



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Michael-5 said:
Viper1 said:
Michael-5 said:

Metroid Prime 3 was the only good shooter on the Wii, and it was difficult to play,

Shooters don't work on Wii

There are a whole host of gamers and media that highly, highly disagree with you on these points.  I'm both.

But, if you prefer, you can use the GC controller or the Classic Controller.

When I say shooters don't work on the Wii, it's not because of the controls, oh no, the controls are great. It's because Nintendo doesn't publish any FPS's other then Metroid Prime, which is technically a First Person Adventure game. Third Party software hasn't seen very many polished FPS's on the Wii.

It's the developers fault, not the console. Yes Red Steel 2 is pretty good, but what else is there? Conduit 1 and 2 generally got 7.5-8/10 scores. How many PS3/360 shooters come out every year that get that rating? Already this year there is Dead Space 2, Homefront, Crysis 2, Killzone 3, and BulletStorm, and I've very excited about Uncharted 3, Gears 3, Mass Effect 3, L.A. Noire, Duke Nukem, and Resistance 3.

I fail to see how that relates to your earlier comments.  You said MP3 was difficult to play.  Then you said shooters don't work on Wii.  Both of these statements allude to the controls being the issue, not the quality or quantity of the genre on Wii.

If that is indeed what you meant, better phrasing would likely have helped.



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Conegamer said:

I would say how it is, but I went into GS and they didn't even know it was out and said it wouldn't be in for another week >.<

Even though I pre-ordered.

So I'll wait until next week, but it looks to be a vast improvement!


Yeah, retailer screwing is another way the gaming industry refuses to pick up the ball with the Wii.

Definitely.

At my GameStop there was an entire section dedicated to Portal 2 and another for Mortal Kombat. When I got to the Wii section there was ONE copy of Conduit 2 hidden amongst the other Wii games.

Why do things like this happen? Isn't there anything the publisher could have done about this? Can someone please send me a personal message with his own review of the game, comparing it to popular shooters on other platforms? Don't post it here though, it could start a war.



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i dont know where u guys r going but i saw conduit 2 boxes at the gamestop i went too. n it was i Wii's new release section, but no one cared because ther were 3 bigger games coming out that day



@tolu  those other games are bigger, thats a fact, so they will get bigger shelf space. Conduit series is b rated at best and IMHO i dont think even Sega had faith in this game, might be why there are not that much copies either

@micheal-5  im sorry but i dont think u even played GE, u or your friend, using Daniel Craig's persona alone makes it a different experience. you say most people say blood stone is better? your either really high or just lying, last i checked. GE has a hight metascore than Blood stone