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It's official: The Graphics King is now crowned

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Pichsterz on 08 April 2011

Graphics is over-rated. I'll choose good game play over graphics any day.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 08 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
CGI-Quality said:

As far as FPS goes, this was pretty much the case since release week. Not only have more sites/reviewers called this game the best looking FPS out there, but the best looking console game period as well (a bit more than Uncharted 2 and significantly more than God of War III).

Crysis 2 makes a great case for multiplatform devs and the 360 as a whole, but it's graphical inconsistencies, performance, and loading are what hurt the overall experience. Killzone 3 is much more polished experience throughout and that's what you expect from something pegged as "the best on consoles" or "the best out there".

The two top tech analyzing sites have now said that Killzone 3 still trumps Crysis 2 (even though both agree with me that Crysis 2's one area of advantage is HDR lighting). Although they are opinions, some said that would make a strong case.

However, good luck with this thread!

spot on

i love both games but with my hands on time with both KZ3 keeps the crown.

Digital Foundry said one thing (among many things) that I find spot on - Crysis 2 is one of the most inconsistent performers in recent times. When stacked up against something like Killzone 3, it falls short or so many areas (pop-in/framerate) being just two of the major ones.

i agree. i saw the other post and it seems as if opinion has turned into something personal. i'm always happy to see you take the higher road.



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osamanobama on 08 April 2011
kowenicki said:
osamanobama said:
Aldro said:

I hope Selnor isn't crying :')!


i wonder if Kowenicki, Nsanity, and Selnor will come to this thread?


hi there big fella.  Why wouldnt I?

Still going on about this?  wow... quiet month at your house?

If lens of truth says its a graphics king then so be it...  have fun.

kowenicki on 24 March 2011

 

 

 "No that it matter, its good for both, it seems we have a new king in thew FPS genre visual stakes.  At times sure it dropsthe ball a bit but that is because it is trying to achieve a higher standard... 

So the best looking FPS thus far.... is a multiplat.  hoorah."



Aldro on 08 April 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
mantlepiecek said:

Some people are hurt, its showing.

Oh and IGN can lick my boots, weren't they saying ME 2 was better on the PS3? LOL, we all saw how that turned out.

IGN is a great joke, and lens of truth obviously has the edge in terms of credibility.


LOL exactly! :D I find this whole situation rather amusing

The truth hurts ^_^. 360 fanboys should stick to praising the sales of their Halo and Gears and leave the graphics to the first party of Sony.

^Yes I do know this was very cruel to say... I apologize if anyone here felt hurt by it xP... I meant no harm but I personally believe that the first party developers have such an advantage over the multiplatform games. Crysis did put up a fight but it does perform worse and it isn't quiiite there yet imo. (not saying that MICROSOFTs first pary CANT do it, they just need to... get some ..refreshed engines).:>



goforgold on 08 April 2011
mendozahotness said:
selnor said:

Crysis 2 when it stretches it's legs, no console game comes close.

this is true, the irony is, that while all the various reviews that declared Crysis 2 the console and PC graphics king, we know they compared it to Uncharted 2, KZ3, gow3 and GoW2 and it won

lensoffail is the only ones to the contrary, and man the majority is always right.

selnor said:

You missed an option. LOT is not x and y is better. It's tests a few things. None of which actually portrays what game is more impressive technically or aesthetically.

yep, im pretty sure no-one disputes kz3 runs in a higher resolution and at a higher framerate, because it has worse graphics, less effects and far less going on just like the HD remakes on PS3 run at a higher resolution and at 60fps means they look better then Uncharted 3 at its 720p 30fps squalor

 

lol see, this is where actually playing killzone 3 comes in handy



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selnor on 08 April 2011
goforgold said:
selnor said:

You missed an option. LOT is not x and y is better. It's tests a few things. None of which actually portrays what game is more impressive technically or aesthetically.

Example. At no time do they reffer to what lighting system each game has. How large the environments are. How many more polygons are being rendered ect ect.

Crysis 2 is the first attempt at having a PC type game environment on console. In other words non streamlined, corridorr shooters.

Framerates and other simpleton tests that these guys perform maen nothing other thean some end user tests.

You will call this out as people being sore losers.

Reality is, no tests were done for how much was realtime rendered. Or the fact that KZ3 does not have to compute Global illumination etc.

Crysis 2 when it stretches it's legs, no console game comes close. I agree that there are moments in Crysis 2 were it looks just good not wow. But the engine is the same throughout. It's designed to be able to handle the huge moments it has whilst still ingame. Not going to some cutscene or having a 10 ft wide corridor as a level ( Exaggerration ).

I've said this before you REALLY have to play more games dude

On console what games do you suggest?

I have finished

Gears 2, Alan Wake, FM3, Killzone 2, MGS4, Uncharted 2, Reach.

I have played more than 60% of the following:

Resis 2, Killzone 3, LBP 1, Bulletstorm.

Also played more than 20 hours of GT5.

So what game have I missed that is supposed to be near the size of Crysis 2 on consoles?



Aldro on 08 April 2011
selnor said:
goforgold said:
selnor said:

You missed an option. LOT is not x and y is better. It's tests a few things. None of which actually portrays what game is more impressive technically or aesthetically.

Example. At no time do they reffer to what lighting system each game has. How large the environments are. How many more polygons are being rendered ect ect.

Crysis 2 is the first attempt at having a PC type game environment on console. In other words non streamlined, corridorr shooters.

Framerates and other simpleton tests that these guys perform maen nothing other thean some end user tests.

You will call this out as people being sore losers.

Reality is, no tests were done for how much was realtime rendered. Or the fact that KZ3 does not have to compute Global illumination etc.

Crysis 2 when it stretches it's legs, no console game comes close. I agree that there are moments in Crysis 2 were it looks just good not wow. But the engine is the same throughout. It's designed to be able to handle the huge moments it has whilst still ingame. Not going to some cutscene or having a 10 ft wide corridor as a level ( Exaggerration ).

I've said this before you REALLY have to play more games dude

On console what games do you suggest?

I have finished

Gears 2, Alan Wake, FM3, Killzone 2, MGS4, Uncharted 2, Reach.

I have played more than 60% of the following:

Resis 2, Killzone 3, LBP 1, Bulletstorm.

Also played more than 20 hours of GT5.

So what game have I missed that is supposed to be near the size of Crysis 2 on consoles?

No God of War 3? That's a start! Might wanna pick up Heavy Rain and finish that too.

EDIT: God of War 3 has some pretty nice scales there too. Regardless of the fact that you can't move the camera. Oh and the character model of Kratos (just Kratos, no one else) shits all over the models of Crysis 2, especially Gould. They call Kratos.. prophet. (LOL)



Aldro on 08 April 2011
CGI-Quality said:
osamanobama said:
kowenicki said:
osamanobama said:
Aldro said:

I hope Selnor isn't crying :')!


i wonder if Kowenicki, Nsanity, and Selnor will come to this thread?


hi there big fella.  Why wouldnt I?

Still going on about this?  wow... quiet month at your house?

If lens of truth says its a graphics king then so be it...  have fun.

kowenicki on 24 March 2011

 

 

 "No that it matter, its good for both, it seems we have a new king in thew FPS genre visual stakes.  At times sure it dropsthe ball a bit but that is because it is trying to achieve a higher standard... 

So the best looking FPS thus far.... is a multiplat.  hoorah."

 

I don't always agree with Kowen, but some of you guys are going a little far. He said he was fine with the final word either way (despite what he said in March). He's come to terms with what others think, even if he doesn't agree.

Seriously guys...

I agree!

Kowenicki, you can have my balls any day sir. Respect to you!



cura on 08 April 2011

What about Crysis 2 on pc? Or is this consoles only? In which case it should be best console graphics or whatever. 

Anyway, I seriously can't believe how (some) people are still arguing over this. ps3 fans will vote kz3 whereas 360 fans (all 3 of them lol) will vote crysis 2 no matter what the evidence says. In the end both games look brilliant and it's pathetic how threads like this continue to thrive. So what if kz3 looks better? Congratulations on being a ps3 fanboy; now take a a permanent break from gaming please. 



cura on 08 April 2011
selnor said:
goforgold said:
selnor said:

You missed an option. LOT is not x and y is better. It's tests a few things. None of which actually portrays what game is more impressive technically or aesthetically.

Example. At no time do they reffer to what lighting system each game has. How large the environments are. How many more polygons are being rendered ect ect.

Crysis 2 is the first attempt at having a PC type game environment on console. In other words non streamlined, corridorr shooters.

Framerates and other simpleton tests that these guys perform maen nothing other thean some end user tests.

You will call this out as people being sore losers.

Reality is, no tests were done for how much was realtime rendered. Or the fact that KZ3 does not have to compute Global illumination etc.

Crysis 2 when it stretches it's legs, no console game comes close. I agree that there are moments in Crysis 2 were it looks just good not wow. But the engine is the same throughout. It's designed to be able to handle the huge moments it has whilst still ingame. Not going to some cutscene or having a 10 ft wide corridor as a level ( Exaggerration ).

I've said this before you REALLY have to play more games dude

On console what games do you suggest?

I have finished

Gears 2, Alan Wake, FM3, Killzone 2, MGS4, Uncharted 2, Reach.

I have played more than 60% of the following:

Resis 2, Killzone 3, LBP 1, Bulletstorm.

Also played more than 20 hours of GT5.

So what game have I missed that is supposed to be near the size of Crysis 2 on consoles?

oblivion?