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What to do?Nintendo's Next gen Consule.

Graphic's upgread for 3rd party support 18 18.18%
 
Open new Studio's to dou... 21 21.21%
 
A new revolutionary way to play 20 20.20%
 
A little bit of everything 39 39.39%
 
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Play4Fun said:
Xen said:
Play4Fun said:
Xen said:
Play4Fun said:
Xen said:
Play4Fun said:
uno said:

If has just shinier graphics with better online infrastructure....I might pass.


It's Nintendo. That's not what it will be.

His statement describes the 3DS with almost 100% accuracy... don't count it out.

No. It doesn't.

The 3DS isn't even cutting edge powerful. It has a bunch of new hardware features (gyroscope and all that) and it has its new hook (3D).

Nintendo put the price higher because a few years after Wii launched, they said they wished they had priced it at $300 because it would have sold the same.

It's laughable how many people are complaining because Nintendo dared to put some power under one of its console's hood.

Aside from the 3D, it's 100% DS with more power and a universal friend code. And the 3D isn't even a necessity for its games, making little difference.

Like it or not, it's a more advanced DS. Not that it's a bad thing, eh?


That's the same with practically every system ever released. More pwoerful version of the last one with more features.

But we're talking Nintendo. And Nintendo went from major innovation (DS, Wii) that are very much unlike their predecessors to putting out the almost exact same with 3DS.

No they didn't.

3D is to 3DS what motion controls was to Wii.

Some people are just saying that because they don't like 3D, just like how some Nintendo fans said the same thing about Wii because they didn't like motion controls.

How is 3DS like NGP anyways? I wasn't aware that NGP had 3D built in.

Nintendo found a way to set its handheld apart from Sony with 3D, just like they did with DS touch screen and Wii motion controls.

All Nintendo has to do now is start putting out games that take advantage of 3D in some nice ways.

3D in 3DS is not as dominant as the use of the touchscreen in DS or motion controls in Wii. It can be turned off hence not key. Its use is rather gimmicky, and different people react differently to it. The 3DS and DS are very much alike.



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Xen said:
Play4Fun said:
Xen said:
Play4Fun said:
Xen said:

 

But we're talking Nintendo. And Nintendo went from major innovation (DS, Wii) that are very much unlike their predecessors to putting out the almost exact same with 3DS.

No they didn't.

3D is to 3DS what motion controls was to Wii.

Some people are just saying that because they don't like 3D, just like how some Nintendo fans said the same thing about Wii because they didn't like motion controls.

How is 3DS like NGP anyways? I wasn't aware that NGP had 3D built in.

Nintendo found a way to set its handheld apart from Sony with 3D, just like they did with DS touch screen and Wii motion controls.

All Nintendo has to do now is start putting out games that take advantage of 3D in some nice ways.

3D in 3DS is not as dominant as the use of the touchscreen in DS or motion controls in Wii. It can be turned off hence not key. Its use is rather gimmicky, and different people react differently to it. The 3DS and DS are very much alike.

First of all, what were you expecting Nintendo to do for a successor? What tech were you expecting them to use? There isn't an unlimited pool of tech for them to dig in and use.

Second, 3D not being as dominant as the use of touch screen isn't even true. There were lots of devices with touch screens when DS came out, but glassesless 3D is just coming into the mobile market and Nintendo is basically the first to market it. It holds alot of wow factor.

And why do you keep saying the DS and 3DS are very similar? Were you expecting them to overhaul the look of the hardware completely like from GBA to DS? The DS/3DS are very well built for handheld gaming, especially with their dual screens, so why would Nintendo let that go?

The DS and Wii's gimmicks were a change in game controls, but Nintendo can only go so far with that. There isn't any other cheap tech they can use to change how we play games. So they went with 3D, which enhances immersiveness during gameplay. I'm sure they'll find other cool ways to use it.

Just like motion controls and dual touch screens, no everyone is going to like 3D, but that doesn't matter. 3D will server the purpose Nintendo needs, which is to set itself apart and enhance the appeal of its products.



RolStoppable said:

Nintendo needs to increase its software output. As long as Sony and Microsoft stick around, third parties will always find excuses to not properly support a Nintendo home console, so the best thing Nintendo can do is having a console that can be entirely sustained by first party games without any notable droughts between major releases.

I can see Nintendo working towards that, but it's not an easy task. If they expand too fast, then the quality of the games is likely to suffer which would offset any gains in quantity.

Lets look at how much they would need to grow compared to what it is now.

We need to figuer out how much games they can pump out atm and how much

they would need to pump out to support itself fully.

 

Right now nintendo can pump out 6 Titles a year Guarenteed withought losing Qualaty. (Not including DS games) 

whats a healty yearly game launch total?  36 Good games? 

 

Ok I suggest invest to double to 12 title by year  2014.   From that grow to have 3 extra games for the Holiday push.

with 15 Nintendo games a year who needs 3rd party Support?

 What you think ?



I say it'll do what the 3DS did. Increase the graphical fidelity to that of the PS3, or more, increase the online, garner 3rd party support and add an inciting twist to it. 

Then, like the 3DS, they'll win



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

Albion said:
RolStoppable said:

Nintendo needs to increase its software output. As long as Sony and Microsoft stick around, third parties will always find excuses to not properly support a Nintendo home console, so the best thing Nintendo can do is having a console that can be entirely sustained by first party games without any notable droughts between major releases.

I can see Nintendo working towards that, but it's not an easy task. If they expand too fast, then the quality of the games is likely to suffer which would offset any gains in quantity.

Lets look at how much they would need to grow compared to what it is now.

We need to figuer out how much games they can pump out atm and how much

they would need to pump out to support itself fully.

 

Right now nintendo can pump out 6 Titles a year Guarenteed withought losing Qualaty. (Not including DS games) 

whats a healty yearly game launch total?  36 Good games? 

 

Ok I suggest invest to double to 12 title by year  2014.   From that grow to have 3 extra games for the Holiday push.

with 15 Nintendo games a year who needs 3rd party Support?

 What you think ?


I need third party support. That way I can get all the games I want on one console instead of having to buy another.

A console with great Nintendo first party plus third party support would be the ultimate console for me. I wouldn't need any other console to satisfy my gaming needs after that.

I'm sure there are alot of other gamers that feel the same way.



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Conegamer said:

I say it'll do what the 3DS did. Increase the graphical fidelity to that of the PS3, or more, increase the online, garner 3rd party support and add an inciting twist to it. 

Then, like the 3DS, they'll win


If they do that they get the same result they did this gen.  Unless they invest into 1st party, for when PS4 Next-box launch a year or two after. 

Pay4fun: Thats what they need to do. But i dont think its a good fit for Nintendo.  PS3 in my mind will come out the Winner,  If it turns out to be just a PS3. and making it bigger then that will make them go down the line of insain consule price hit on profit's.



Albion said:
Conegamer said:

I say it'll do what the 3DS did. Increase the graphical fidelity to that of the PS3, or more, increase the online, garner 3rd party support and add an inciting twist to it. 

Then, like the 3DS, they'll win


If they do that they get the same result they did this gen.  Unless they invest into 1st party, for when PS4 Next-box launch a year or two after. 

I don't see that happening. But if 3rd parties abandon the 3DS, why should Nintendo care?



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

digitalnasties said:
gumby_trucker said:
digitalnasties said:

If Nintendo come out with 1080p on it's next console, Nintendo will lose the third parties when both Sony and maybe Mircosoft release a new console with 4k HD, Nintendo will never regain full third party support again like in the days of Super Nes, so they need to build or buy a second party developer to clone popular games (like rareware do).

Are you planning on spending $10,000 on a brand new 4K 120Hz 3D HDTV?

or will that come bundled with an extra controller like Wii Play was?

Do really think that Sony's next console will be 1080p when they need to sell there new 4k TV's.

1080p is fine.  Not everyone has money to unload on upgrading their TVs every 2-5 years.  I finally replaced my old HD CRT just this past holiday.  Sony can try and push whatever tech they want but that doesn't change the fact most people won't upgrade to the latest TV considering they just upgraded to 1080p recently.



Actually to gain 3rd party support nintendo needs to make awful games so that 3rd party games would look better and ppl would buy them :D. (ps their is a kind of twisted truth to that)



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A little bit of everything is the only correct answer.  The current Wii did well by a focus on first parties and a unique style to play, but its easy to see that it lost out on third party support because of the HD consoles.  But eventhough graphics seem to be the biggest issue for third parties, Nintendo could cement their hold on the market even more with more first and second party titles.



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