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Forums - Sales Discussion - Kinect overtracked by 500k? PS3 > 360 weekly HW?

Microsoft reported that 1m units of Kinect have been shipped during its 10 days on the market. VGC claimed the device had a 1.3m sell through to existing customers. So right off the bat the numbers are atleast 300k off.

The PS Move shipped 2.5m units which were VGC-estimated to be 1.25m sets of Moves, and a sell through of 50%'ish.

So if Kinect has 1m shipped, and a even a higher sell through percentile of lets say 80%, that would indicate 800k units sold. Which would make VGC off by 500k. Half a million units.This translates into the weekly HW numbers aswell, as the PS3 is only 30k behind the 360, which had a week over week increase of roughly 100% in the US as Kinect launched.

So the PS3 might've even been ahead of the 360 last week!?

 

Thoughts?



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I stick by VGChartz.  1.3 million sold to customers.  :)



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STEKSTAV said:

Microsoft reported that 1m units of Kinect have been shipped during its 10 days on the market. VGC claimed the device had a 1.3m sell through to existing customers. So right off the bat the numbers are atleast 300k off.

The PS Move shipped 2.5m units which were VGC-estimated to be 1.25m sets of Moves, and a sell through of 50%'ish.

So if Kinect has 1m shipped, and a even a higher sell through percentile of lets say 80%, that would indicate 800k units sold. Which would make VGC off by 500k. Half a million units.This translates into the weekly HW numbers aswell, as the PS3 is only 30k behind the 360, which had a week over week increase of roughly 100% in the US as Kinect launched.

So the PS3 might've even been ahead of the 360 last week!?

 

Thoughts?

Not shipped, sold to customers



You make a few assumptions:

  • You're assuming shipped and not sold when the article doesn't specify at all.
  • You're assuming it's strictly 1 million and not more than one million as you should.  Remember, they probably won't release something like this on the weekend so for all you know they could have hit one million on Friday night.


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twesterm said:

You make a few assumptions:

  • You're assuming shipped and not sold when the article doesn't specify at all.
  • You're assuming it's strictly 1 million and not more than one million as you should.  Remember, they probably won't release something like this on the weekend so for all you know they could have hit one million on Friday night.

 

Not assuming anything:

  • Its always shipped. Always. Unless they say otherwise. Why do NPD even exsist if they can collect sell through data in 10 days themselves?
  • So what do you think is fair? 1.1m... 1.3m? Even though "over" always indicates more than the closest hard number, but not more than the next pre-set level of making your reported numbers look great. If it had been more than 1.2, they'd claim more than 1.2. Not more than 1m.

Even if they did 1.3m, i doubt Kinect has a 100% sellthrough, while the PS Move has 50%?

EDIT: Even if it was fridays numbers, "more than" could even be reported as 970k with knowledge that it would atleast sell 30k in EU. So i doubt it be a time and date thing.



ramses01 said:

Not shipped, sold to customers


Nope.



People lined up for Kinect and it had a bigger marketing campaign and it launched during holiday hype rather the duller days of September. Sellthrough is likely far higher than for Move in the initial weeks.



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the press release says sold....

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2010/nov10/11-15ninemillionpr.mspx

 

"Microsoft Corp. today announced it has sold 1 million Kinect for Xbox 360 units worldwide in 10 days"



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STEKSTAV said:
ramses01 said:

Not shipped, sold to customers


Nope.


you're here to discuss facts or your own dream world?



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