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johnglen said:

This "500 million in advertising" memo is getting old extremely fast. Sony spent more than 300 million relaunching the ps3 with slim (over 150 million just for Europe) and we weren't reading about it in every thread and we are talking about sony, a company with huge financial problems.

 

So true. Sony fans go on and on about how MS spends their money.

Yet they pay no attention to the PS3 being the biggest financial failure ever in gaming. Didn't they basically lose everything the Playstation brand earned?



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Mr Puggsly said:
johnglen said:

This "500 million in advertising" memo is getting old extremely fast. Sony spent more than 300 million relaunching the ps3 with slim (over 150 million just for Europe) and we weren't reading about it in every thread and we are talking about sony, a company with huge financial problems.

 

So true. Sony fans go on and on about how MS spends their money.

Yet they pay no attention to the PS3 being the biggest financial failure ever in gaming. Didn't they basically lose everything the Playstation brand earned?

No, you're just acting stupid.



TheFlyingDutchman said:
Mr Puggsly said:
johnglen said:

This "500 million in advertising" memo is getting old extremely fast. Sony spent more than 300 million relaunching the ps3 with slim (over 150 million just for Europe) and we weren't reading about it in every thread and we are talking about sony, a company with huge financial problems.

 

So true. Sony fans go on and on about how MS spends their money.

Yet they pay no attention to the PS3 being the biggest financial failure ever in gaming. Didn't they basically lose everything the Playstation brand earned?

No, you're just acting stupid.

Well this tells me they probably did...

 

2006 to 2010 wasn't just PS3 losses. That's also pissed away the PSP and PS2 earnings.



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Mr Puggsly said:
TheFlyingDutchman said:
Mr Puggsly said:
johnglen said:

This "500 million in advertising" memo is getting old extremely fast. Sony spent more than 300 million relaunching the ps3 with slim (over 150 million just for Europe) and we weren't reading about it in every thread and we are talking about sony, a company with huge financial problems.

 

So true. Sony fans go on and on about how MS spends their money.

Yet they pay no attention to the PS3 being the biggest financial failure ever in gaming. Didn't they basically lose everything the Playstation brand earned?

No, you're just acting stupid.

Well this tells me they probably did...

 

2006 to 2010 wasn't just PS3 losses. That's also pissed away the PSP and PS2 earnings.


Mr. Puggsly is right on this one they've essentially thrown everything away that their gaming devision ever made, profit wise, the PS3 will be even harder to recoup money since not being market leader means they can't get away with charging as much for royalties as they did on the PS2.

I don't believe they went into the red overall but they're essentially starting to square one again, hopefully they realize why you don't sell your console at a loss with technology that will take a lot time to become financially viable for a consumer price.  

Though it is worth noting since the restructuring the games division has apparently started to make Sony money again its just now they're bundled in with other divisions, though unless Sony gives detailed reports on departments, then we'll know nothing for certain, mainly how well the company is doing now and if they can recoup some of their losses.

So this doesn't turn into a big deal @ theflyingdutchman drop it, it's not going to go anywhere and Puggsly brought in the facts.  



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johnglen said:

This "500 million in advertising" memo is getting old extremely fast. Sony spent more than 300 million relaunching the ps3 with slim (over 150 million just for Europe) and we weren't reading about it in every thread and we are talking about sony, a company with huge financial problems.

 


Do you have a link to that 300 million number? I'm actually interested. I didn't realise they spent 300 million advertising the PS3 Slim.

OT: Fox News sucks. They amount of things they get wrong is just ridiculous and their perspective on nearly everything after 2001 is completely  insane. With the amount of things Fox News has tried to do to damage the image of the gaming industry, I'm surprised  a gamer would actually link to their horrible site. I'm sure the next big blockbuster that doesn't follow along their guidelines will be labelled as the ungodly summons of the devil.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:

entertaining it is,all drama's are entertaining

 

they should leave news channel and become Fox entertainment news

Basically all their programming is just news. I presume you hear a lot about it more than watch.

They have a few programs where the hosts express their opinions as well. Same as all the other cable news networks.

Just because it doesn't put me into a coma of boredom doesn't mean its just entertainment news. You must have it confused with shit programming like the Daily Show or something.

THEY JUST DON'T LOOK LIKE A FORMAL THING

they are lunatics



Ok, you're just acting stupid (I hope)?

Where are the years when the first Playstation dominated? Or are you saying that 102.5 million pieces of hardware and 950 million pieces of software sold didn't make any profit at all?

I'm guessing you're just putting numbers here that should cover your way of thinking (aka hating)?

You "forgot" a few numbers;

Sony recently posted a Q1 profit ( $852 million): http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/sony-posts-852m-profit-ps3-pc-sales-up/

Nintendo recently posted a Q1 loss (- $288 million):  http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/29/nintendo-posts-q1-loss-on-strong-yen-and-lower-ds-prices/



TheFlyingDutchman said:

Sony recently posted a Q1 profit ( $852 million): http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/sony-posts-852m-profit-ps3-pc-sales-up/

 

Isn't that Sony profit? I'm talking Playstation brand.

I mean MS making billions with PC software doesn't make the Xbox brand profitable.



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Solid_Snake4RD said:

THEY JUST DON'T LOOK LIKE A FORMAL THING

they are lunatics

I don't know what you're talking about. Once again, I think you here more about Fox News than you actually watch.

I often have the TV on Fox News. I'd love to see some lunatics, but it just doesn't happen.

But to be fair Glenn Beck is definitely odd, but not a lunatic.



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Mr Puggsly said:
TheFlyingDutchman said:

Sony recently posted a Q1 profit ( $852 million): http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/29/sony-posts-852m-profit-ps3-pc-sales-up/

 

Isn't that Sony profit? I'm talking Playstation brand.

I hope kinnect does really well,but let's not make this into a ps3v360 thread. Your better than that.