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Squilliam said:

Its more an artistic benchmark, personally.


It's more than that fella, the jump from Uncharted 1 to 2 is immense.  Play through it a couple of times and you'll see what I mean.



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I still haven't gotten my hands on GoW3 but from the games I've played, Uncharted 2 stands alone.  It's hard to find fault with this game's technical achievements.  The first time I saw that scene with the helicopter, the wind blown trees, and the crumbling building, I orgasmed twice.



I still think GoW3 beats it. I also expect KZ3 to beat them both, I might add.



slowmo said:
Squilliam said:

Its more an artistic benchmark, personally.


It's more than that fella, the jump from Uncharted 1 to 2 is immense.  Play through it a couple of times and you'll see what I mean.

I would bet the majority of the improvement is in using their assets better, not the ability to have more assets on screen due to engine technology.



Tease.

CGI-Quality said:
tehsage said:

Why do you consider GoWIII better?

Don't really want to derail the thread much, but from the immense boss battles, to the scale, the framerate, lighting, textures and character model (Kratos), I was more impressed with God of War III.

While GOW3 looks more impressive from the technical standpoint, Uncharted 2 has a lot more beuty in it. Take a look at the Shambala and Borneo level. They are more prettier than all GOW3 levels.



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hasanwhy said:

Love the effort that Naughty Dog has put into Uncharted 2. A very laudable performance indeed. But the question that begs to be asked is: How will they top this????  

Advanced: check

Multiplayer: check

Co-op online: check

Epic campaign: check

local support: ? 

Ability to rewind during video files: ? 

3D: ? 

Move: ? 

Youtube: ? 


My thoughts on reading the OP.

Uncharted 3 faces a steep hill to up.



pizzahut451 said:
CGI-Quality said:
tehsage said:

Why do you consider GoWIII better?

Don't really want to derail the thread much, but from the immense boss battles, to the scale, the framerate, lighting, textures and character model (Kratos), I was more impressed with God of War III.

While GOW3 looks more impressive from the technical standpoint, Uncharted 2 has a lot more beuty in it. Take a look at the Shambala and Borneo level. They are more prettier than all GOW3 levels.

Its opinion really. But both games look amazing...even though imo, GoW III looks better.

YAY ! Its another GoW III vs UC2 graphics thread ! This has to stop...seriously...

Uncharted 2 is a game that made me go "Preeeetttyyy !!!!!!" at some points.



I'd still give the nod to Uncharted 2 over Gow3 on PS3, technically.  The engine is simply more robust overall (at least on the evidence of the games themselves) in terms of the gameplay variety it can support, plus it paved the way for much of GoW3, particularly in how it pioneered an engine with large, truly moving entities (the train being the highlight of course).

It also contains by far, I'd argue, the two most impressive levels, the train of course where you are actually traveling through what feels like endless, real surroundings, and the Tibeten village, where the detail of the houses, characters etc. makes GoW3's levels seem pretty barren (and in fact in terms of detail level they are, in admittedly trademark style for the GoW series) of details next to Uncharted 2.

The animation in Uncharted 2 is also more consistent.  The monsters in GoW3 are amazingly animated, but Kratos still doesn't have a proper walk animation and many of the Gods featured looked very poor for character animation - in Uncharted 2 all characters are amazingly well animated and there are none of the blips that sometimes caused me to lose immersion a bit with GoW3.

GoW3 is perfectly polished for the type of game it is, and due to less detail overall it can push superior lighting and frame rate as well as plenty of it's own fancy effects and touches, but while the engine may be capable of more from the content in the game it feels limited to a few, specific gameplay elements, whereas Uncharted 2 covers pretty much every gameplay type apart from vehicle driving (which I missed but they clearly removed due to grumbling about their poor control choice of the jetski in Uncharted).

In comparing them, though, I feel the overall difference is minimal and it's a very close thing: a ball hair's difference as it where, if you'll pardon my French.

BTW for those wanting to read up more on Uncharted 2 I'd suggest Digital Foundry's good coverage of the title where they delve into all the cool innovation packed into the title.

EDIT: As Boutros also notes, the ability to support such great online play is another testiment to how flexible Uncharted 2's engine is.  I can't wait to see the next version which is sure to feature even further optimization from Uncharted 2.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Uncharted 2 was an amazing game for sure. Didn't see many other games beat it even today. Compared to GoWIII, at least all the character models look great and "next-gen." Zeus and Poseidon have absolutely awful hair and all. The only thing that makes GoWIII beat this game is the framerate IMO.

I still can't believe how the GoWIII E3 demo is so different compared to the real game (had no blur, shitty framerate, etc.). That's what I call impressive optimization! Knowing Naughty Dog's track record and since Sony first parties trade their secrets between each other, there's no doubt in my mind Uncharted 3 is going to be "the" game when it releases.



Random game thought :
Why is Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 getting so much hate? We finally get a real game and they're not even satisfied... I'm starting to hate the gaming community so f****** much...

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Uncharted 2 is definitely still the one game to beat imo.

Just the simple fact that you can play online with these graphics and this performance is simply amazing technically wise.