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thranx on 01 September 2010
gekkokamen said:
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
thranx said:
gekkokamen said:
sergiodaly said:
thranx said:
sergiodaly said:

the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

@thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
    		•


    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.

    My point was yopu said you don't want the ps3 turned into a pc with installs and here is a list of ps3 games that already require installs. So its back to blu ray is not needed for highend graphics like I said. All blu ray owned was ps3 profibility and market share.

    I guess DVDs weren't needed either, but it happened. I'm sure last gen could've survived on CDs alone, right?

    We are talking about here and now, things are much different. But seeing as computer games still survive on cd, yes it could have if the systems had a harddrive to install.



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    gekkokamen on 01 September 2010
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    sergiodaly said:
    thranx said:
    sergiodaly said:

    the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

    @thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


    Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

    well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

    well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

    Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

    great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

    You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
    		•


    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.

    My point was yopu said you don't want the ps3 turned into a pc with installs and here is a list of ps3 games that already require installs. So its back to blu ray is not needed for highend graphics like I said. All blu ray owned was ps3 profibility and market share.

    I guess DVDs weren't needed either, but it happened. I'm sure last gen could've survived on CDs alone, right?

    We are talking about here and now, things are much different. But seeing as computer games still survive on cd, yes it could have if the systems had a harddrive to install.

    I guess the "multiple disc/installation model" is not very marketable or attractive for consoles...I really don't mind taking 10, 15 minutes to install some data once, but if , for example I wanted to play GT5 and I was REQUIRED to install 20GB or some ridiculous amount of data just to play the whole, then Switch discs, that would get a big "NO" instantly. A large media format like blu-ray for me offers less hassle, if it's good for 15, 20 games alone, so be it, I know more are coming and will come that take advantage of 50GB in a single disc. Thank you Sony.



    thranx on 01 September 2010
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    sergiodaly said:
    thranx said:
    sergiodaly said:

    the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

    @thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


    Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

    well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

    well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

    Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

    great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

    You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
    		•


    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.

    My point was yopu said you don't want the ps3 turned into a pc with installs and here is a list of ps3 games that already require installs. So its back to blu ray is not needed for highend graphics like I said. All blu ray owned was ps3 profibility and market share.

    I guess DVDs weren't needed either, but it happened. I'm sure last gen could've survived on CDs alone, right?

    We are talking about here and now, things are much different. But seeing as computer games still survive on cd, yes it could have if the systems had a harddrive to install.

    I guess the "multiple disc/installation model" is not very marketable or attractive for consoles...I really don't mind taking 10, 15 minutes to install some data once, but if , for example I wanted to play GT5 and I was REQUIRED to install 20GB or some ridiculous amount of data just to play the whole, then Switch discs, that would get a big "NO" instantly. A large media format like blu-ray for me offers less hassle, if it's good for 15, 20 games alone, so be it, I know more are coming and will come that take advantage of 50GB in a single disc. Thank you Sony.

    It just doesn't change the fact that they could of achieved the same results at a cheaper price with out bluray. What do you mean install and switch discs? You either have to install or switch discs not both. I will even take it a step further and say you actually need no disc drive for high end graphics. look at how many pc games you can download with out ever using a disc.



    gekkokamen on 01 September 2010
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    sergiodaly said:
    thranx said:
    sergiodaly said:

    the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

    @thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


    Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

    well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

    well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

    Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

    great alternative! turn PS3 gaming into the absolute tedium it is playing on PC. PS3 games coming on multiple dvds and you need to install large chunks of data on your hard drive...maybe for you, not for me. Thank God for both blu-ray and large non-propietary HDD by the way.

    You mine like for these games?

  • Assassin's Creed [1.3]
  • Alone in the Dark - Inferno [3.78]
  • Burnout Paradise [.4] (~400 MegaBytes)
  • Battlefield BC [.4]
  • Bio Shock [5]
  • Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway [2]
  • Civilization Revolution [.65] (~ 665.6 MegaBytes)
  • Conan [.67]
  • Devil May Cry 4 [4.83]
  • Dark Sector [1.2]
  • Eye of Judgement [1.9]
  • Enemy Territory: Quake Wars [4.2]
  • Fallout 3 [5]
  • Far Cry 2 [3.5]
  • Fight Night Round 4 [1.3]
  • Fear [2.5]
  • Fracture [2]
  • GTA IV [3.3]
  • GT5 Prologue [5.24]
  • Ghostbusters [4]
  • Haze [3.82]
  • Hawx [4]
  • Hot Shots Golf 5 [3.61]
  • Heavenly Sword [2.1]
  • Infamous [1.3]
  • Little Big Planet [.6]
  • Legendary [4.5]
  • Lost Planet: Extreme Condition [4.9]
  • Lost: Via Domus [3]
  • Medal Of Honor: Airborne [1.95]
  • Mercenaries 2: World in Flames [2.7]
  • Mirror's Edge [.55]
  • MLB The Show 09 [2.5]
  • Mortal Kombat VS DC [1.1]
  • MLB 08 The Show [2]
  • Metal Gear Solid 4 [4]
  • Nascar 09 [.12]
  • NBA 09 The Inside [2.8]
  • Need for Speed Undercover [1]
  • Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm [4]
  • Oblivion GOTY [5]
  • Orange Box
  • Oblivion GOTY
  • Overload Raising Hell [3.33]
  • Prototype [.65]
  • Ratchet & Clank Future [.42]
  • Resistance: Fall of Man [.22]
  • Resistance 2 [.4]
  • Rainbow Six Vegas 2 [3]
  • Ridge Racer 7 [5]
  • Saints Row 2 [3.8]
  • Spiderman 3 [2.6]
  • Skate [2.6]
  • Shaun White Snowboarding [1]
  • Soul Calibur IV [2.6]
  • Spider-Man: Web of Shadows [2]
  • Star Wars: The Force Unleashed [2.7]
  • Street Fighter IV [2.1]
  • Socom Confrontation [2.7]
  • TNA Impact! [4.75]
  • Top Spin 3 [3.6]
  • Timeshift [1.02]
  • Turning Point: Fall of Liberty [2.52]
  • The Bourne Conspiracy [4.7]
  • Tom Clancy's End War [5]
  • Warhawk w/boosters [5]
  • Warhawk w/o boosters [1.25]
  • WWE Smackdown! vs. Raw 2008 [2.4]
  • WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2009 [3.2]
    		•


    So, your point? you telling me all there is to PC gaming is installs? lol... dude just drop it, blu-ray owns your ass.

    My point was yopu said you don't want the ps3 turned into a pc with installs and here is a list of ps3 games that already require installs. So its back to blu ray is not needed for highend graphics like I said. All blu ray owned was ps3 profibility and market share.

    I guess DVDs weren't needed either, but it happened. I'm sure last gen could've survived on CDs alone, right?

    We are talking about here and now, things are much different. But seeing as computer games still survive on cd, yes it could have if the systems had a harddrive to install.

    I guess the "multiple disc/installation model" is not very marketable or attractive for consoles...I really don't mind taking 10, 15 minutes to install some data once, but if , for example I wanted to play GT5 and I was REQUIRED to install 20GB or some ridiculous amount of data just to play the whole, then Switch discs, that would get a big "NO" instantly. A large media format like blu-ray for me offers less hassle, if it's good for 15, 20 games alone, so be it, I know more are coming and will come that take advantage of 50GB in a single disc. Thank you Sony.

    It just doesn't change the fact that they could of achieved the same results at a cheaper price with out bluray. What do you mean install and switch discs? You either have to install or switch discs not both. I will even take it a step further and say you actually need no disc drive for high end graphics. look at how many pc games you can download with out ever using a disc.


    not marketable doesn't change facts?

    OK...(leaves thread)



    880user088 on 01 September 2010

    I always hated Cnet...



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    sergiodaly on 01 September 2010
    thranx said:
    gekkokamen said:
    sergiodaly said:
    thranx said:
    sergiodaly said:

    the games round have some thin reasons for the tie!

    @thranks - Blu Ray is there... it does not matter if you want it or use it... the value is there so they must give the points for it! your personal opinion and experience is irrelevant.


    Just cause its theree does not mean it has value to gamers. For people who bought it to play games all it has done is increase price, not the value. It is not irrelevant, as it could be this way for many consumers. And it is especially relevant as this whole video was based off of three people opinion, not facts or anything like that, but opinion.

    well i see it the other way around... the only fact is that is there and gives the machine more value (GT5 fans will back me up on this for sure), if you like or dislike, that is opinion! and value is about real thing available to us... but lets not get into a fight about it... like you say in your first post "for me at least" you don't see the value and i get that you are free to have opinions but the only thing i was pointing out is that personal opinions and experiences aren't relevant in the matter, that,  you have one and i other...

    well, now that MS and Sony are really sticking to their 10-year plan or whatever, the storage capacity advantage of blu-ray becomes even more relevant. Besides who said it doesn't have value? I've playing games on my PS3 that just wouldn't be possible or the same on 1 DVD or multiple discs. Metal Gear Solid 4, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, the list goes on and everybody not an ignorant knows this. I will be enjoying my Gran Turismo 5 in one blu-ray thank you very much. Oh, and even "lesser" multiplat games enjoy much superior less compressed and TRULY HD CG VIDEOS on the PS3 versions. Like Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy XIII, Darksiders, that list is quite long, and I do appreciate video quality on my 70" screen not those pixelated-compressed 360 videos yuck....I guess you can't appreciate value on a crappy screen playing crappy games, but I'm nobody to judge....

    Seeing as there better games graphics wise on the pc and they require no blu ray, I tend to not give it credit for graphics. They could achieve the same results by using multiple discs with installs, since all ps3's have a harddrive.

    you refuse to let it go...
    same price... one have a feature and the other don't... the one that does have it has more value than the other... no way you can turn this around... its a simple fact. leave it to rest!

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    sergiodaly on 01 September 2010

    let it go gekkokamen, let him get this if this makes him happy... 
    the more blind person, ain't who can't see but the ones that refuse to see...

     

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    thranx on 01 September 2010

    lol you guys crack me up. All i did was present some info and facts and I am blind.



    slowmo on 01 September 2010
    ConnorJCP said:
    slowmo said:
    Branko2166 said:

    Not a bad video. Only one score I disagree strongly with and that's in the graphics department.

    Was kinda lolz worthy that 2 guys scored the graphics on the ps3 and 360 equally. But I suppose it's opinion based ultimately.

     


    Mulitplats generally are as good or better on 360, a handful of PS3 exclusives look better than anything on the 360.  When you weigh up the difference be thankful they gave the PS3 the same score as the vast majority of titles look as good or better on the 360.

    i hate it when people say it balances out because some multi-plats, occasionally, look better on the 360,
    thats like saying a country that won gold,silver,bronze in a Olympic game is overall about as good as a country that gets 3rd 4th and 5th.
    its about the winners, not the failures.


    You might have a point if your analogy was even remotely close to what I said.  It is more like saying a country that won just 3 gold medals is better than one that won 15 silvers and 30 bronzes. In that example which is far more accurate your "hate" seems rather biased to suit an agenda you have imo.

    For the record I didn't say the guys opinion was wrong, I stated depending on how you weighted each example he could have scored heavily against the PS3 so should be grateful he didn't. 

    If it's about the winners then the 360 has FAR more than the PS3 in graphical comparison stakes.



    XGamer0611 on 01 September 2010

    I own both systems so I don't care who won.



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