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zarx said:
Barozi said:

It will hopefully be more like the original and not like the others

 

oh and shio 4 million sales across 3 games for one of the few good exclusive FPS/RPG series left on the PC doesn't really prove that PC isn't dead...


well 2 million for the original  aprox 1 mill each for the sequels for three low budget (compared to most games) full of bugs that put off many people, with little to no advertising is hardly what I would call bad. But shio does like his hyperbole lol. 

Never said the sales are bad, but the series is quite popular among PC gamers, especially the first one since it obviously was the best but also was meant to set new benchmarks in the graphics department.

Still I don't see how a good exclusive series that sold 1.33m on average proves anything.



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Barozi said:
zarx said:
Barozi said:

It will hopefully be more like the original and not like the others

 

oh and shio 4 million sales across 3 games for one of the few good exclusive FPS/RPG series left on the PC doesn't really prove that PC isn't dead...


well 2 million for the original  aprox 1 mill each for the sequels for three low budget (compared to most games) full of bugs that put off many people, with little to no advertising is hardly what I would call bad. But shio does like his hyperbole lol. 

Never said the sales are bad, but the series is quite popular among PC gamers, especially the first one since it obviously was the best but also was meant to set new benchmarks in the graphics department.

Still I don't see how a good exclusive series that sold 1.33m on average proves anything.

it doesn't prove anything lol, but I don't think it's what I would call quite popular outside of Europe sure it has a niche but it's more of a cult hit IMO even in the PC market. I mean look at Starcraft 2 it's already hit 1.6 million in two weeks that is popular lol. But anyway this is getting nowhere lol.

 

man I say lol to much lol...                 Damn it.



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So is it coming to the PS3/360 as well? Since they did mention a new multiplatform engine.



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Doobie_wop said:

So is it coming to the PS3/360 as well? Since they did mention a new multiplatform engine.


they had plans to bring S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to consoles before, I think this will end like 4A's plans to bring metro 2033 to the PS3, as in they will put in some ground work multiplatform but probably end up not coming out or being a really poor port. 



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zarx said:
Doobie_wop said:

So is it coming to the PS3/360 as well? Since they did mention a new multiplatform engine.


they had plans to bring S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to consoles before, I think this will end like 4A's plans to bring metro 2033 to the PS3, as in they will put in some ground work multiplatform but probably end up not coming out or being a really poor port. 

If it's anything like Metro 2033 port on the 360, then I'd be happy with that. I've got Shadow of Chernobyl on my PC and I'm not digging the gameplay and how rubbish the guns are when you first start, the world is fascinating though so it's a shame.



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

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Doobie_wop said:
zarx said:
Doobie_wop said:

So is it coming to the PS3/360 as well? Since they did mention a new multiplatform engine.


they had plans to bring S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to consoles before, I think this will end like 4A's plans to bring metro 2033 to the PS3, as in they will put in some ground work multiplatform but probably end up not coming out or being a really poor port. 

If it's anything like Metro 2033 port on the 360, then I'd be happy with that. I've got Shadow of Chernobyl on my PC and I'm not digging the gameplay and how rubbish the guns are when you first start, the world is fascinating though so it's a shame.

so you don't like the RPG elements eh, I really enjoyed the gameplay even if it can be pretty brutal. 



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Doobie_wop said:
zarx said:
Doobie_wop said:

So is it coming to the PS3/360 as well? Since they did mention a new multiplatform engine.


they had plans to bring S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to consoles before, I think this will end like 4A's plans to bring metro 2033 to the PS3, as in they will put in some ground work multiplatform but probably end up not coming out or being a really poor port. 

If it's anything like Metro 2033 port on the 360, then I'd be happy with that. I've got Shadow of Chernobyl on my PC and I'm not digging the gameplay and how rubbish the guns are when you first start, the world is fascinating though so it's a shame.

so you don't like the RPG elements eh, I really enjoyed the gameplay even if it can be pretty brutal. 



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Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!

Doobie_wop said:
zarx said:
Doobie_wop said:

So is it coming to the PS3/360 as well? Since they did mention a new multiplatform engine.


they had plans to bring S.T.A.L.K.E.R. to consoles before, I think this will end like 4A's plans to bring metro 2033 to the PS3, as in they will put in some ground work multiplatform but probably end up not coming out or being a really poor port. 

If it's anything like Metro 2033 port on the 360, then I'd be happy with that. I've got Shadow of Chernobyl on my PC and I'm not digging the gameplay and how rubbish the guns are when you first start, the world is fascinating though so it's a shame



@TheVoxelman on twitter

Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!

Barozi said:
shio said:
Barozi said:

It will hopefully be more like the original and not like the others

 

oh and shio 4 million sales across 3 games for one of the few good exclusive FPS/RPG series left on the PC doesn't really prove that PC isn't dead...

Considering that none of the Stalker games ever topped PC charts, It is a strong argument in favour of PC Gaming being stronger than ever.

Also, Stalker is the ONLY good FPS/RPG series today in any platform, yet it's only on PC. Consoles don't have any FPS/RPG hybrids. It came from an unknown independent developer from an under-developed nation, yet they made a high quality, multi-million selling product with no advertisement and a low budget. This can only happen on PC

I actually was talking about FPS AND RPG, not necessarily hybrids like Stalker, Borderlands or Fallout 3.

Also it's not surprising at all that none of them ever topped a PC chart considering 50% or more purchasers live in former Sowjet Union countries.

GSC is far from being an unknown studio. Cossacks series is quite popular among PC gamers at the time.

And given that STALKER was hyped as hell since 2001 it's no surprise it sold that well.

Ukraine isn't that under-developed either. Maybe the people outside of the big cities, but that has hardly anything to do with that dev studio...

You really know nothing about PC, and especially RPGs exclusives on PC. There are DOZENS of great exclusive RPGs on PC that consoles didn't get this gen, while consoles only have a handful of FPS and RPGs that aren't even as good as the PC exclusives.

Exclusive PC RPGs:

  1. The Witcher
  2. King's Bounty: The Legend
  3. King's Bounty: Armored Princess
  4. Guild Wars Factions
  5. Guild Wars: Nightfall
  6. Space Rangers 2
  7. Neverwinter Nights 2
  8. Spellforce 2: Shadow Wars
  9. Titan Quest
  10. Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of The Betrayer
  11. Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
  12. Guild Wars: Eye of the North
  13. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
  14. Lord of the Rings Online
  15. World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
  16. The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria
  17. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
  18. Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
  19. Space Rangers 2: Reboot
  20. Aion
  21. League of Legends
  22. Torchlight
  23. Mount & Blade: Warband
  24. Mount & Blade
  25. Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer

These are all RPGs exclusive to PC at least a rating average of around 80% on PC, since this gen started. How many exclusive Console RPGs with at least 80% are there? I'll tell you, ONLY 10 RPGs in ALL Consoles are 80%.

Oh, and I didn't put all exclusive PC RPGs with 80% there, since the list is already too big.

Not only does PC have MUCH more great titles that all consoles combined (according to reviewers), but it also has a much more varied range of RPG game, since it has MMORPGs, SRPGs, ARPGs, CORPGs, Traditional RPGs and Genre-mixing RPGs like Space Rangers 2 (which is a mix or RPG, RTS, Adventure and Action).

RPG developers are more and more confident on PC, and in the next few months of 2010 and in 2011 we will get even more amount of amazing RPGs than we ever gotten before:

  1. World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
  2. Torchlight 2
  3. Diablo 3
  4. Guild Wars 2
  5. Star Wars: The old Republic
  6. King's Bounty: Crossroads
  7. Otherland
  8. Mytheon
  9. Grim Dawn
  10. Darkspore
  11. Starport Gemini
  12. Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium Online
  13. Tera

As for FPS, we still get more great exclusives than any console, just not more than all consoles combined. Any FPS fan needs to play Shooters on PC, since that's by far the best place for them, and games like Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Quake Live, Stalker games, Killing Floor, etc.. can only be experienced at it's fullest on PC.

GSC Game World was pretty much an unknown studio. Cossacks wasn't THAT popular, and they went incognito, since early 2000's they didn't do anything relevant. They easily made more profit on Stalker games than games like Killzone 2, any Resistance game, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Uncharted game, God of War 3, Fable 2, etc...

Low budgets, No advertisement, High profit margins in Digital Distribution. Think About it.

They already sold over 4 millions. And before Stalker 2 arrives, it'll reach 5 millions, because good PC games have loooong legs.



shio said:
Barozi said:
shio said:
Barozi said:

It will hopefully be more like the original and not like the others

 

oh and shio 4 million sales across 3 games for one of the few good exclusive FPS/RPG series left on the PC doesn't really prove that PC isn't dead...

Considering that none of the Stalker games ever topped PC charts, It is a strong argument in favour of PC Gaming being stronger than ever.

Also, Stalker is the ONLY good FPS/RPG series today in any platform, yet it's only on PC. Consoles don't have any FPS/RPG hybrids. It came from an unknown independent developer from an under-developed nation, yet they made a high quality, multi-million selling product with no advertisement and a low budget. This can only happen on PC

I actually was talking about FPS AND RPG, not necessarily hybrids like Stalker, Borderlands or Fallout 3.

Also it's not surprising at all that none of them ever topped a PC chart considering 50% or more purchasers live in former Sowjet Union countries.

GSC is far from being an unknown studio. Cossacks series is quite popular among PC gamers at the time.

And given that STALKER was hyped as hell since 2001 it's no surprise it sold that well.

Ukraine isn't that under-developed either. Maybe the people outside of the big cities, but that has hardly anything to do with that dev studio...

You really know nothing about PC, and especially RPGs exclusives on PC. There are DOZENS of great exclusive RPGs on PC that consoles didn't get this gen, while consoles only have a handful of FPS and RPGs that aren't even as good as the PC exclusives.

Exclusive PC RPGs:

  • The Witcher
  • King's Bounty: The Legend
  • King's Bounty: Armored Princess
  • Guild Wars Factions
  • Guild Wars: Nightfall
  • Space Rangers 2
  • Neverwinter Nights 2
  • Spellforce 2: Shadow Wars
  • Titan Quest
  • Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of The Betrayer
  • Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
  • Guild Wars: Eye of the North
  • World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
  • Lord of the Rings Online
  • World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
  • The Lord of the Rings Online: Mines of Moria
  • Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
  • Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures
  • Space Rangers 2: Reboot
  • Aion
  • League of Legends
  • Torchlight
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade
  • Age of Conan: Rise of the Godslayer
  • These are all RPGs exclusive to PC at least a rating average of around 80% on PC, since this gen started. How many exclusive Console RPGs with at least 80% are there? I'll tell you, ONLY 10 RPGs in ALL Consoles are 80%.

    Oh, and I didn't put all exclusive PC RPGs with 80% there, since the list is already too big.

    Not only does PC have MUCH more great titles that all consoles combined (according to reviewers), but it also has a much more varied range of RPG game, since it has MMORPGs, SRPGs, ARPGs, CORPGs, Traditional RPGs and Genre-mixing RPGs like Space Rangers 2 (which is a mix or RPG, RTS, Adventure and Action).

    RPG developers are more and more confident on PC, and in the next few months of 2010 and in 2011 we will get even more amount of amazing RPGs than we ever gotten before:

  • World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
  • Torchlight 2
  • Diablo 3
  • Guild Wars 2
  • Star Wars: The old Republic
  • King's Bounty: Crossroads
  • Otherland
  • Mytheon
  • Grim Dawn
  • Darkspore
  • Starport Gemini
  • Warhammer 40,000: Dark Millennium Online
  • Tera
  • As for FPS, we still get more great exclusives than any console, just not more than all consoles combined. Any FPS fan needs to play Shooters on PC, since that's by far the best place for them, and games like Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Quake Live, Stalker games, Killing Floor, etc.. can only be experienced at it's fullest on PC.

    GSC Game World was pretty much an unknown studio. Cossacks wasn't THAT popular, and they went incognito, since early 2000's they didn't do anything relevant. They easily made more profit on Stalker games than games like Killzone 2, any Resistance game, Metal Gear Solid 4, and Uncharted game, God of War 3, Fable 2, etc...

    Low budgets, No advertisement, High profit margins in Digital Distribution. Think About it.

    They already sold over 4 millions. And before Stalker 2 arrives, it'll reach 5 millions, because good PC games have loooong legs.

    I was talking about still active established RPG series...

    I know a lot about PC gaming, it just looks like you only play the mediocre game and I play the good ones.