Don't get me wrong. I like BioWare a lot. But who copies valve and especially blizzard?

Oh i dunno, ever hear of a HL-clone? Or how about Diablo clones? Starcraft clones too? Unless you started playing about 3 years ago, the market would be flooded with all those types of games. Obviously they were all copied because their games make no money at all, and are definitely not successful.

Isn't HL a doom clone? So they are actually copying ID! Diablo? Ultima clone?

Except that it isn't a DOOM clone. That's why HL was so successful. And Diablo wasn't an Ultima clone, which is also why it was so successful. I mean really, did you jsut start playing games in 2008 or something?

Kids, kids, stop fighting!

So why fps games are HL-clones once again? I don't see that much difference in diablo and ultima. But if you see it, good for you!

Really, you must have started playing games at least in 2006 then! Wow, you are so wise.

First off. "Who cares about Valve and Blizzard"? Are you kidding me? Blizzard made the greatest game of all time, Starcraft: Brood War, and they are the only games company in the same league as Nintendo when it comes to being consistant in delivering quality games. Only P2P? Well I sure have a lot of monthly SCBW and Diablo fees that I've missed.

This is Ultima: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Shjfn1plA

Now please explain to me how it compares to the action-oriented-multiplayer-heavy gameplay of Diablo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6_tnZrWncA&feature=related

If you need anymore proof of the strenght of Blizzard games, look at HoN and LoL (Heroes of Newerth and League of Legends) Those are games that copies a custom map (DotA) INSIDE a Blizzard game (Warcraft III)

Half Life DooM clone? Have you played FPS games before and after Half Life? I guess not, because if you have played FPS before Half Life you would know how innovative that game was, and it's sequel didn't dissapoint either. Half Life 2 gave gamers havoc physics and realistic special effects years before the HD twins were released and despite being a pioneer in physics, HL2 did some incredibly interresting stuff with the physics engine such as giving players the gravity gun.

Now don't ever underrestimate Blizzard or Valve again.

I'm with the general trend of this topic. Switch out LIVE, since it wasn't innovative at all much less a "milestone", for Saving and you have a really good list.

I'm sorry. I did not know that SC is the best game ever. On what metric, your personal opinion?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMw4xR0tb-Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzgGAtU7F2o

Seems pretty same to me. You fight some things, gather loot and gain experience. What is the big difference? D2 is faster? :D Haha.

What do you do in HL? Shoot things. Doom? Shoot things. But I know.. in doom you had armor and in HL you have shields. That is a BIG difference. What is so innovative about HL in your opinion?

Only good game valve has ever made is TF2. Counter-strike was good also, but that was a mod... and since 2003(?) Blizzard has done nothing but cash on pay to play games.

rofl