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selnor said:
Lafiel said:
Cueil said:

then how are three people playing Dance Central?

is it actually 3 player?

I only saw 1 guy being scored at a time during the presentation (even when the two prof dancers joined the dance in the background), but there were 3 characters on screen, so I guess it might be an option.

How do you not no the game is set up that all 3 of them have to get it right or it all effects the 1 score? It may be a coop mode where they have to dance in sync. 

I dont know, but it could be that.

However I also thought about this awhile ago. How would 4 players jump around in front of a TV together anyway. There would be alot of getting in each others way. 

Remember this is no controllers. So you have to physically move. 

I know it is only scoring one person, the guys at the Harmonix booth explained it quite thoroughly and showed how it sees three people but only one person is colored white which is the one the Kinect is actually looking at for the scoring.



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Kinect dose it with 1 controller. In other words you do not need to go buy 2 more PS moves if you want to play with more then once person. With kinecy, you only need 1.



This shows that MS and Sony don't completely understand exactly why the Wii is so popular. 

Yes, motion control is a huge reason, but being able to have a group of four people being simultaneously involved is what makes it such a party machine.  Waiting your turn just isn't as fun.



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amp316 said:

This shows that MS and Sony don't completely understand exactly why the Wii is so popular. 

Yes, motion control is a huge reason, but being able to have a group of four people being simultaneously involved is what makes it such a party machine.  Waiting your turn just isn't as fun


Just how many wii owners went out and bought 3 more wii-mote? Wii was cheap but not if you had to buy 3 more wii-motes.

The most played wii-sport games in my family  are "waiting your turn" like bowling and golf. Wit-fit board is also "waiting your turn" since most wii fit owner would only have one board.



Smidlee said:
amp316 said:

This shows that MS and Sony don't completely understand exactly why the Wii is so popular. 

Yes, motion control is a huge reason, but being able to have a group of four people being simultaneously involved is what makes it such a party machine.  Waiting your turn just isn't as fun


Just how many wii owners went out and bought 3 more wii-mote? Wii was cheap but not if you had to buy 3 more wii-motes.

The most played wii-sport games in my family  are "waiting your turn" like bowling and golf. Wit-fit board is also "waiting your turn" since most wii fit owner would only have one board.

I still only own two wiimotes, but I have certainly played games that require four at my house... because either the company I have over has one, or a neighbor down the street does.



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as long as i can play Move games while i'm sitting i'm all set to game



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ghinasky said:

as long as i can play Move games while i'm sitting i'm all set to game


More times than not...your gonna stand...sometimes it just feels right....I can do the same with the wii sitting down..but..games like wii sports/resort...kinda fun with some friends and just standing when it's your turn.

 

Oh and if you didnt know this...at E3 wasnt hard to play kinect sitting down....saying that cuz I've seen your posting habit so far and know thats what your comment was really about.

 

Just helpn ya mate.



Alby_da_Wolf said:
slowmo said:
Booh! said:
slowmo said:

By the way just to shoot down some of the more annoying critics on here:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m6d21-Kiect-not-limited-to-2players-Has-unlimited-possibilites

At E3, PrimeSense showed a demonstration to JoyStiq which showed two-players going through a demo, though the camera technology did recognize more. This demonstration was built solely by PrimeSense and in no way has any relation or link to the software and game coding Microsoft has developed for Kinect. PrimeSense is the provider of the hardware chip for Microsoft, but Microsoft handles the rest, so the demo put on by PrimeSense does not reflect what Kintect can do in terms of total players.

The camera technology can detect an unlimited number of people, so if it's programmed in such a way, it can process and render more than two-players at a time. At the current time, Microsoft hasn't revealed how many players Kinect will support, but last year they did mention it could and would allow for 4-player gaming. PrimeSense did state that they do not know how many players Microsoft currently has Kinect setup to handle. With Kinect and the PrimeSense demonstration two completely separate entities, but the camera itself can detect a limitless number of people. It's solely limited based on the software that is implemented to the camera' hardware chip.

 

Enjoy

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Not exactly: it is not software limited, it is hardware limited, as in processing power. PrimeSense already stated that the camera can track as many players as you wish (sort of), but that "it can only run calculations on two people at a time, just because the processing power required to track all of the body's locations and movements is so great". Since PrimeSense built the hardware and delivered the middleware, I doubt that it is possible to optimize the code in such a way that it doubles its performances.

btw, Kinect is $149.99 (http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Kinect-Sensor-for-Xbox-360/product/C737B081)

/Kinect


I doubt you know what you're talking about so that makes us even.  bye bye.

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No, he's right. Theoretical limits of camera and control SW are higher, but they are limited by the amount of computing power available for control SW on XB360.

What exactly is the exact amount of power that Kinect uses of the 360 to track two people and how much would 4 people tracking require.  What optimisiation is left to allow 4 player tracking if it isn't within current limits?  Both of you cannot answer this question hence why I said he doesn't know whta he's talking about.  If the people who develop the camera say its possible and Microsoft too then I'll believe them over 2 PC and PS3 centric fans thanks.



slowmo said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
slowmo said:
Booh! said:
slowmo said:

By the way just to shoot down some of the more annoying critics on here:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-12218-Video-Game-Examiner~y2010m6d21-Kiect-not-limited-to-2players-Has-unlimited-possibilites

At E3, PrimeSense showed a demonstration to JoyStiq which showed two-players going through a demo, though the camera technology did recognize more. This demonstration was built solely by PrimeSense and in no way has any relation or link to the software and game coding Microsoft has developed for Kinect. PrimeSense is the provider of the hardware chip for Microsoft, but Microsoft handles the rest, so the demo put on by PrimeSense does not reflect what Kintect can do in terms of total players.

The camera technology can detect an unlimited number of people, so if it's programmed in such a way, it can process and render more than two-players at a time. At the current time, Microsoft hasn't revealed how many players Kinect will support, but last year they did mention it could and would allow for 4-player gaming. PrimeSense did state that they do not know how many players Microsoft currently has Kinect setup to handle. With Kinect and the PrimeSense demonstration two completely separate entities, but the camera itself can detect a limitless number of people. It's solely limited based on the software that is implemented to the camera' hardware chip.

 

Enjoy

/thread

Not exactly: it is not software limited, it is hardware limited, as in processing power. PrimeSense already stated that the camera can track as many players as you wish (sort of), but that "it can only run calculations on two people at a time, just because the processing power required to track all of the body's locations and movements is so great". Since PrimeSense built the hardware and delivered the middleware, I doubt that it is possible to optimize the code in such a way that it doubles its performances.

btw, Kinect is $149.99 (http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Kinect-Sensor-for-Xbox-360/product/C737B081)

/Kinect


I doubt you know what you're talking about so that makes us even.  bye bye.

/thread

No, he's right. Theoretical limits of camera and control SW are higher, but they are limited by the amount of computing power available for control SW on XB360.

What exactly is the exact amount of power that Kinect uses of the 360 to track two people and how much would 4 people tracking require.  What optimisiation is left to allow 4 player tracking if it isn't within current limits?  Both of you cannot answer this question hence why I said he doesn't know whta he's talking about.  If the people who develop the camera say its possible and Microsoft too then I'll believe them over 2 PC and PS3 centric fans thanks.


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I gotta agree with ya...

 

Infact neither of them have even tried knct in person...just going off the same ole same ole...and infact...with them being ''PC'' They should know just a wee bit about hardware and what it can do...owells...guess that saying that under every bridge theres a ......yeah.



MS is not using PrimeSense middleware, PrimeSense is only providing the hardware to MS.  Any limitation would be due to software.