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Adobo on 21 June 2010
svt24 said:

gt5 will eat halo alive in sales.


oh okay!



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jarrod on 21 June 2010
ElGranCabeza said:
jarrod said:
c0rd said:

As for my prediction? I see GT5 selling at least 1.5mil in Japan, 3 million in America, and 5.5 million in Europe, which would clear 10. I just don't know how far it can go after that, though.

Your Japan figure is WAY too high.  GT4 barely cleared a million in Japan, GT5P only sold about 250k (300k were bundled a year later) and GT PSP only did about 250k also.  

Honestly, I think GT5 will be lucky to break a million in Japan, 1.5 would be an insane turnaround for the series there (even GT3 came just shy of 1.5m), where it's been in clear decline (mirroring Mingol almost exactly actually).  More realistically, I think it'll do between just 700-900k.

I see GT5 topping out at 500k in Japan after The Best release and before bundles. Preorders did not pick up at all after the info and new trailers came out. The sales will be made up in NA and EU though. Mingol 6 on the other hand will probably sell more than Mingol 5, I can see that doing 800-900k in Japan if it releases close to Move release - that is by Summer 2011 at the latest. I think both Mingol 6, Mintennis and possibly a new Min, either Min Sports or Min Baseball, will be released within a year of PS Move release in Japan.

Well, I tend to think it'll do better than that.  Especially when Sony inevitably gives it away via bundles (which more than doubled GT5P "sales" in Japan).

I do agree on Mingol though, and I think it could really be a killer app for Move.  Something like Minna no Yakyuu could be really huge too imo.



RageBot on 21 June 2010
Michael-5 said:

I predict Halo Reach will sell 14.5-17.5 million copies, but I acknowledge that this game could potentially break 20 million sales.


I think you shouldn't have written this line, if up till now pepole didn't bother reading your posts because they were too long, now they won't bother reading them because you show a severe flaw in your understanding of how sales work.



Bet with Dr.A.Peter.Nintendo that Super Mario Galaxy 2 won't sell 15 million copies up to six months after it's release, the winner will get Avatar control for a week and signature control for a month.

JerCotter7 on 21 June 2010
Hyruken said:
JerCotter7 said:
Hyruken said:
Hynad said:

Wait... Neogaf people that appear to be pissed over something?

 

Talk about a revelation.

 

It has been revealed that those 800 or so other cars will still have cockpit view.  Just not the authentic ones like the 200 premium cars.  As usual, people are making a big deal out of nothing.


That is not what they are saying. They are saying basically the textures have been imported from PS2 and slightly touched up. If you look at the link in the first page your see a picture of the premium and standard ones. Acording to gaf there will be no cockpit view from the 800 and all will have windows tinted and have different damage physics. If you look on page 2 your see some clever people have managed to get some screens and the cars clearly have "Gran Turismo 4" written on it.

Now most of us me included probably couldn't give a monkies, but to die hard racing fans it is a big deal. Especially when you compare it to say Forza 3.

The real car it's based on was sponsored by GT4 so why would they write GT5 on it if that's not how it appeared? Also they aren't just PS2 models slightly touch up. And they have the same damage physics. Just the non premium won't have parts falling off like the premium because what's behind the bumper isn't modeled in them so that's why the parts can't fall off. 

Also look at the video in the thread that you are picking posts that have been proved wrong from. Look for the video of the standard cars with the tinted windows. You can still clearly see in the windows to see that there is a roll cage in one rally car. And the non rally car's can be seen to be different inside. Take a look at a few of the cars in this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzyYxxpvyaw That's how GT4 did it. They made it so dark that you could only see an outline of a driver and 2 seats. These models probably have the same detail as Forza 3.



Erm no i am just relaying info they have used. Which has not been proven wrong as you claim because most is photo evidence...... Like

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5487/30vfabt.jpg

 

Yea sorry I see now. Exactly like GT4.



jarrod on 21 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:

not those bundles like year old LBP and 3 year old UNCHARTED free with 250gb SKU

they will do it like NEED FOR SPEED SHIFT,GOD OF WAR ONE's where its 120gb plus game for $239

ALSO if Wii was without Wii sports it would have still been priced that high

Actually, in America it might not get bundled right away.  SCEA tends to shy away from that, did we even get a GT5P bundle here?

And again, Japan shows exactly how Nintendo would've handled Wii w/o Wii Sports.  The console would've launched @ $199.99, and Wii Sports probably would've been $39.99.  Reggie insisting on bundling it was really a genius move though, it allowed them to artificially raise the console price ("free" game!  value!) and Wii Sports (more than anything else at launch) was really the sort of proof of concept title Wii needed to sway the masses.  It was pure win:win for Nintendo.



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Hyruken on 21 June 2010
JerCotter7 said:
Hyruken said:
JerCotter7 said:
Hyruken said:
Hynad said:

Wait... Neogaf people that appear to be pissed over something?

 

Talk about a revelation.

 

It has been revealed that those 800 or so other cars will still have cockpit view.  Just not the authentic ones like the 200 premium cars.  As usual, people are making a big deal out of nothing.


That is not what they are saying. They are saying basically the textures have been imported from PS2 and slightly touched up. If you look at the link in the first page your see a picture of the premium and standard ones. Acording to gaf there will be no cockpit view from the 800 and all will have windows tinted and have different damage physics. If you look on page 2 your see some clever people have managed to get some screens and the cars clearly have "Gran Turismo 4" written on it.

Now most of us me included probably couldn't give a monkies, but to die hard racing fans it is a big deal. Especially when you compare it to say Forza 3.

The real car it's based on was sponsored by GT4 so why would they write GT5 on it if that's not how it appeared? Also they aren't just PS2 models slightly touch up. And they have the same damage physics. Just the non premium won't have parts falling off like the premium because what's behind the bumper isn't modeled in them so that's why the parts can't fall off. 

Also look at the video in the thread that you are picking posts that have been proved wrong from. Look for the video of the standard cars with the tinted windows. You can still clearly see in the windows to see that there is a roll cage in one rally car. And the non rally car's can be seen to be different inside. Take a look at a few of the cars in this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzyYxxpvyaw That's how GT4 did it. They made it so dark that you could only see an outline of a driver and 2 seats. These models probably have the same detail as Forza 3.



Erm no i am just relaying info they have used. Which has not been proven wrong as you claim because most is photo evidence...... Like

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5487/30vfabt.jpg

 

Yea sorry I see now. Exactly like GT4.



That was someone doing a joke apparently.

This one was taken from GT5 though. This one shows exactly what they are talking about in terms of textures and detail. Apparently car's don't have any mechanics underneath them!

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/2456/rkdh02.jpg 



ElGranCabeza on 21 June 2010
jarrod said:
ElGranCabeza said:
jarrod said:
c0rd said:

As for my prediction? I see GT5 selling at least 1.5mil in Japan, 3 million in America, and 5.5 million in Europe, which would clear 10. I just don't know how far it can go after that, though.

Your Japan figure is WAY too high.  GT4 barely cleared a million in Japan, GT5P only sold about 250k (300k were bundled a year later) and GT PSP only did about 250k also.  

Honestly, I think GT5 will be lucky to break a million in Japan, 1.5 would be an insane turnaround for the series there (even GT3 came just shy of 1.5m), where it's been in clear decline (mirroring Mingol almost exactly actually).  More realistically, I think it'll do between just 700-900k.

I see GT5 topping out at 500k in Japan after The Best release and before bundles. Preorders did not pick up at all after the info and new trailers came out. The sales will be made up in NA and EU though. Mingol 6 on the other hand will probably sell more than Mingol 5, I can see that doing 800-900k in Japan if it releases close to Move release - that is by Summer 2011 at the latest. I think both Mingol 6, Mintennis and possibly a new Min, either Min Sports or Min Baseball, will be released within a year of PS Move release in Japan.

Well, I tend to think it'll do better than that.  Especially when Sony inevitably gives it away via bundles (which more than doubled GT5P "sales" in Japan).

I do agree on Mingol though, and I think it could really be a killer app for Move.  Something like Minna no Yakyuu could be really huge too imo.

What's Yakyuu? And that's why I said before bundles, if Sony heavily bundles GT5 with the PS3 in Japan, then I can see it doing 800k or so.



darthdevidem01 on 21 June 2010
RageBot said:
Michael-5 said:

I predict Halo Reach will sell 14.5-17.5 million copies, but I acknowledge that this game could potentially break 20 million sales.


I think you shouldn't have written this line, if up till now pepole didn't bother reading your posts because they were too long, now they won't bother reading them because you show a severe flaw in your understanding of how sales work.

LMAO so true

@Guy saying GT5 will top out at 500K in Japan

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL @ YOU

GT5 will outsell Prologue in Japan atleast



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

ElGranCabeza on 21 June 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
RageBot said:
Michael-5 said:

I predict Halo Reach will sell 14.5-17.5 million copies, but I acknowledge that this game could potentially break 20 million sales.


I think you shouldn't have written this line, if up till now pepole didn't bother reading your posts because they were too long, now they won't bother reading them because you show a severe flaw in your understanding of how sales work.

LMAO so true

@Guy saying GT5 will top out at 500K in Japan

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL @ YOU

GT5 will outsell Prologue in Japan atleast

I said before bundles smart guy. Did you notice that GT5 has not moved in the pre orders even though new info, trailers, etc have come out? GT is not a huge franchise in Japan anymore.



ethomaz on 21 June 2010

GT5 will sell over 1 million on Japan... GT5:P toped 600k.