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Solid_Snake4RD on 17 June 2010
Khuutra said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Khuutra said:

If you didn't have anything to support your argument, you could have just admitted it.

Now your reasoning can be dismissed out of hand.

you didn't have anything to dissmiss it either

and BLU-RAY battle is so familiar with everybody following gaming and on this forum that you don't need to prove it

its just you that is like in grade 1 and doesn't know anything,and because you are a special case you need to find a proof usrself

Sorry, but calling for negative proof is a logical fallacy; if you want to use the statement that studios support Blu-Ray because of the PS3, you need to use proof, because that statement is not intuitive - nor is it true, to the best of my limited knowledge.

It would take you thirty seconds with Google, if such reasonign was ever put forth. I am willing to bet, however, that you are pulling this idea out of your ass, and will continue to do so.

studios supported PS3 as PLAYSTATION brand made sales for BLU-RAY player which made BLU-RAY software sales of MOVIES that studios produced

 

yes the statement is not intutive to your knowledge as you have clearly not been following the industry and for such a simple point to prove,it is ur fault to even ask for a proof or not enter the discussion as you don't know anything

 

and it would take you 30 secs on google too

 

also 2006 old articles get erased so its more dificult



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Solid_Snake4RD on 17 June 2010
aragod said:
Khuutra said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:

Show me the people who decried one as a gimmick and then praised the other out the other side of their mouths. After you do that, I' still going ot remind you that you are generalizing.

Now, which perspective comes down to "fanboy", here? Individuals who say gimmick and then awesome would be hypocrites.

I'm not going to pick up individuals as I can't be bothered to go back and search the forums, writing down names, I'll just generalize... The "voice" of the "masses" of Nintendo fans here made U-turn after the announcement.

I'm not sure if hypocrite is the right word for this situation, as we are talking individuals who's mind is easily swayed by propaganda, it's closer to religious fanatic, worshiping his diety in the presence of business company. So I think that fanboy would be the correct term.

You have no basis on which to make this statement. Sorry.

And you have no basis to prove that my argument is lacking. Either one of us will have to do the research to prove the other he is wrong and neither of us is going to do it. But that doesn't mean you are right.

lol he doesn;t know anything himself and he is asking us for proof

wonder why he even made a post



aragod on 17 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:

Show me the people who decried one as a gimmick and then praised the other out the other side of their mouths. After you do that, I' still going ot remind you that you are generalizing.

Now, which perspective comes down to "fanboy", here? Individuals who say gimmick and then awesome would be hypocrites.

I'm not going to pick up individuals as I can't be bothered to go back and search the forums, writing down names, I'll just generalize... The "voice" of the "masses" of Nintendo fans here made U-turn after the announcement.

I'm not sure if hypocrite is the right word for this situation, as we are talking individuals who's mind is easily swayed by propaganda, it's closer to religious fanatic, worshiping his diety in the presence of business company. So I think that fanboy would be the correct term.

You have no basis on which to make this statement. Sorry.

And you have no basis to prove that my argument is lacking. Either one of us will have to do the research to prove the other he is wrong and neither of us is going to do it. But that doesn't mean you are right.

lol he doesn;t know anything himself and he is asking us for proof

wonder why he even made a post

I wonder why we all debate here because in the end it's all pointless. Guess because we are bored of writing our papers...



MY HYPE LIST: 1) Gran Turismo 5; 2) Civilization V; 3) Starcraft II; 4) The Last Guardian; 5) Metal Gear Solid: Rising

Khuutra on 17 June 2010
aragod said:
Khuutra said:

You have no basis on which to make this statement. Sorry.

And you have no basis to prove that my argument is lacking. Either one of us will have to do the research to prove the other he is wrong and neither of us is going to do it. But that doesn't mean you are right.

Aragod, you're a reasonable guy. Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

I can't provide proof of something that didn't happen. That impetus isn't on me. I'm not saying it's not true because you haven't proven it, I'm saying that my experiences run counter to your proposition. You're going to need proof to get past that.

I'm done talking to Solid_Snake, but you can see what I mean, right?



Solid_Snake4RD on 17 June 2010
aragod said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:

Show me the people who decried one as a gimmick and then praised the other out the other side of their mouths. After you do that, I' still going ot remind you that you are generalizing.

Now, which perspective comes down to "fanboy", here? Individuals who say gimmick and then awesome would be hypocrites.

I'm not going to pick up individuals as I can't be bothered to go back and search the forums, writing down names, I'll just generalize... The "voice" of the "masses" of Nintendo fans here made U-turn after the announcement.

I'm not sure if hypocrite is the right word for this situation, as we are talking individuals who's mind is easily swayed by propaganda, it's closer to religious fanatic, worshiping his diety in the presence of business company. So I think that fanboy would be the correct term.

You have no basis on which to make this statement. Sorry.

And you have no basis to prove that my argument is lacking. Either one of us will have to do the research to prove the other he is wrong and neither of us is going to do it. But that doesn't mean you are right.

lol he doesn;t know anything himself and he is asking us for proof

wonder why he even made a post

I wonder why we all debate here because in the end it's all pointless. Guess because we are bored of writing our papers...

lol

i love this place just not with these kind of people

 

anyways after this year's dissappouinting E3 and VGC 3.0,my interest has decreased



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CrazyHorse on 17 June 2010
Khuutra said:
CrazyHorse said:

Isn't Sony providing the content though by producing 3D blockbuster games?

The business positions of Sony and Nintendo with regards to 3D are completely uncomparable, they are very different companies with very different objectives. Nintendo can afford to 'wait it out' on the 3D market where as Sony have wider implications than simply the success of SCE to consider.

You are right on the second part, but I'm not sure that Sony's content initiative is going to work here unless they're willing to cripple the Playstation brand again for several more years.

Well the PS3 is now 3D ready so the only extra cost comes in game development. Of course it may not work in the end but they do have tv broadcasters, movie studios and a lot of media attention behind them all helping to push 3D content and awareness. Also in their favour is the obvious difference between 3D and 2D which is much more profound than just a resolution upgrade ala SD to HD (which some people still claim not to be able to notice!) Again, everything will ulitmately come down to cost.



Solid_Snake4RD on 17 June 2010
Khuutra said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:

You have no basis on which to make this statement. Sorry.

And you have no basis to prove that my argument is lacking. Either one of us will have to do the research to prove the other he is wrong and neither of us is going to do it. But that doesn't mean you are right.

Aragod, you're a reasonable guy. Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

I can't provide proof of something that didn't happen. That impetus isn't on me. I'm not saying it's not true because you haven't proven it, I'm saying that my experiences run counter to your proposition. You're going to need proof to get past that.

I'm done talking to Solid_Snake, but you can see what I mean, right?


man we were only discussing like we follow the industry

 

you were like oh i don't know it that happened or not but you should provide proof for what you are talking about.we can't just keep googling all the time and providing proof,that is a waste of time when the topic we were discussing is known by everybody and it is like who is the president of your country kind of thing



Khuutra on 17 June 2010
CrazyHorse said:

Well the PS3 is now 3D ready so the only extra cost comes in game development. Of course it may not work in the end but they do have tv broadcasters, movie studios and a lot of media attention behind them all helping to push 3D content and awareness. Also in their favour is the obvious difference between 3D and 2D which is much more profound than just a resolution upgrade ala SD to HD (which some people still claim not to be able to notice!) Again, everything will ulitmately come down to cost.

Absolutely. I just mean that if they brand the PS4 as a 3D device, which is to say that they market its 3D ability to the exclusion of marketing other factors, it may go poorly for them.



aragod on 17 June 2010
Khuutra said:
aragod said:
Khuutra said:

You have no basis on which to make this statement. Sorry.

And you have no basis to prove that my argument is lacking. Either one of us will have to do the research to prove the other he is wrong and neither of us is going to do it. But that doesn't mean you are right.

Aragod, you're a reasonable guy. Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_proof

I can't provide proof of something that didn't happen. That impetus isn't on me. I'm not saying it's not true because you haven't proven it, I'm saying that my experiences run counter to your proposition. You're going to need proof to get past that.

I'm done talking to Solid_Snake, but you can see what I mean, right?

I know that, that's why I wrote that there is no point in trying to continue this. I don't have the time (or the urge) to waste several hours trying to connect names to their contraindications. I wasn't trying to get "past that", I was calling it a dead end (atleast on my side). Yet I didn't acknowledged you as the "winner" of our argument because I know that there is evidence for me to back up my claims (which I claim - yea I know).



MY HYPE LIST: 1) Gran Turismo 5; 2) Civilization V; 3) Starcraft II; 4) The Last Guardian; 5) Metal Gear Solid: Rising

CrazyHorse on 17 June 2010
Khuutra said:
CrazyHorse said:

Well the PS3 is now 3D ready so the only extra cost comes in game development. Of course it may not work in the end but they do have tv broadcasters, movie studios and a lot of media attention behind them all helping to push 3D content and awareness. Also in their favour is the obvious difference between 3D and 2D which is much more profound than just a resolution upgrade ala SD to HD (which some people still claim not to be able to notice!) Again, everything will ulitmately come down to cost.

Absolutely. I just mean that if they brand the PS4 as a 3D device, which is to say that they market its 3D ability to the exclusion of marketing other factors, it may go poorly for them.

Well hopefully they've learned not to soley target high end users after this gen but you never know!