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Who cares, the game is (really really ridiculously) good looking fun. Many think the game deserves a 10 on the Great-Number-Chart-In-The-Sky, and others don't. I'm really not going to lose any sleep on whether SMG2 gets a 98 or a 97 on MetaCritic.

It's a great game that's a blast to play, let's keep it that way.



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Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Nintendogamer said:
I saw no article like this when GTAIV got all the perfect 10's.

Becauuse GTA 4 wasn't made by NIntendo.

It has nothing to do with Nintendo. Nintendo is getting called out for being lazy and copy and pasting their games. Seriously do we need to same music, characters, stars, animations in EVERY GAME? I mean come on?

 

WHAT A TWIST! Mario said "HERE WE GOOO!!!"

Why wasn't Naughy Dog called out for Copy Pasting Uncharted to make Uncharted 2? They even have the unchanged title music, at least Mario Galaxy spiced it up.

Why Wasn't Epic Games called out for copy pasting Gears of War 2?

Why Wasn't Insomniac called out for copy pasting Ratchet and Clank?

Halo 3?

Modern Warfare 2?

Lost Planet 2?

Left 4 Dead 2?

Heck some of these games go so far as to charge you for maps you bought in the previous game!

As you read through my post and try to come up with reasons why these games weren't copy pasted, you have answered why Mario Galaxy 2 wasn't copy pasted.



Zucas said:
Well I do for the most part agree it probably doesn't deserve 10s, because I really don't think many games at all don't deserve 10s. But these kind of complaints for a sequel is seriously something you could use for almost any sequel ever created outside of ones that aren't your direct sequel kinda things. I mean I could look at almost any sequel and say "ah you have the same main character in there" or "the same guns and a similar environment to where the first one took place" or "similar mechanics". I mean that is really being nitpicky.

I'm not going to say with a sequel you shouldn't have things new. That's the point of having a sequel. Not just to continue a story, but to improve and innovate the formula you have created. But I think Nintendo did that exceptionally well with Galaxy 2, better than most do with sequels. I've played a lot of sequels this generation, and Galaxy 2 doesn't feel like the usual sequel. Easily could be a game in its own right and that's the point. I don't like how critics do things nowadays, but I can see why they like it enough to get 10s even though I rarely think any should get 10s.

As for this guy who writes this, I think it is pretty apparent he has to make a lot of stretches to get a lot points against Galaxy 2 which is why he doesn't come off too strong and why he doesn't make any truth claims in there. So it's a pretty decent article that is fair.

Couldn't have said it better myself.



Smeags said:

Who cares, the game is (really really ridiculously) good looking fun. Many think the game deserves a 10 on the Great-Number-Chart-In-The-Sky, and others don't. I'm really not going to lose any sleep on whether SMG2 gets a 98 or a 97 on MetaCritic.

It's a great game that's a blast to play, let's keep it that way.

Let's listen to Smeags. Smeags is great. We love Smeags and his comments. Listening to Smeags will make everything good.

Listen to Smeags.



1. The repeated content is made different by its new presentation; for example fighting Bugaboom with the cloud suit is mechanically different to fighting him with the bee suit in Galaxy. Nothing is simply rehashed.

Did you get similarly upset when Gears of War 2 also had brumaks in it, or Killzone 2 had you fighting the same baddies?

And really, complaining about story in a Mario game? Go play Mass Effect if you want a story, or better yet read a book or watch a movie.


2. Lives system motivates you to actually finish something in a set number of tries, instead of the n00B-friendly endless lives system most games use, which emphasises grinding over skill.

3. There was a hub; starship mario it just wasn't large and boring like Peach's Castle and Delfino Square, where you had to wander for ages to get to where you wanted to go. This way, there's less time wasted traversing a tedious overworld.



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ph4nt said:
Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Nintendogamer said:
I saw no article like this when GTAIV got all the perfect 10's.

Becauuse GTA 4 wasn't made by NIntendo.

It has nothing to do with Nintendo. Nintendo is getting called out for being lazy and copy and pasting their games. Seriously do we need to same music, characters, stars, animations in EVERY GAME? I mean come on?

 

WHAT A TWIST! Mario said "HERE WE GOOO!!!"

Why wasn't Naughy Dog called out for Copy Pasting Uncharted to make Uncharted 2? They even have the unchanged title music, at least Mario Galaxy spiced it up.

Why Wasn't Epic Games called out for copy pasting Gears of War 2?

Why Wasn't Insomniac called out for copy pasting Ratchet and Clank?

Halo 3?

Modern Warfare 2?

Lost Planet 2?

Left 4 Dead 2?

Heck some of these games go so far as to charge you for maps you bought in the previous game!

As you read through my post and try to come up with reasons why these games weren't copy pasted, you have answered why Mario Galaxy 2 wasn't copy pasted.

Don't be an idiot. This isn't just about a song in the game. By the way Mario SMG2 soundtrack uses over 75% of songs from previous games.



Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Nintendogamer said:
I saw no article like this when GTAIV got all the perfect 10's.

Becauuse GTA 4 wasn't made by NIntendo.

It has nothing to do with Nintendo. Nintendo is getting called out for being lazy and copy and pasting their games. Seriously do we need to same music, characters, stars, animations in EVERY GAME? I mean come on?

 

WHAT A TWIST! Mario said "HERE WE GOOO!!!"

Why wasn't Naughy Dog called out for Copy Pasting Uncharted to make Uncharted 2? They even have the unchanged title music, at least Mario Galaxy spiced it up.

Why Wasn't Epic Games called out for copy pasting Gears of War 2?

Why Wasn't Insomniac called out for copy pasting Ratchet and Clank?

Halo 3?

Modern Warfare 2?

Lost Planet 2?

Left 4 Dead 2?

Heck some of these games go so far as to charge you for maps you bought in the previous game!

As you read through my post and try to come up with reasons why these games weren't copy pasted, you have answered why Mario Galaxy 2 wasn't copy pasted.

Don't be an idiot. This isn't just about a song in the game. By the way Mario SMG2 soundtrack uses over 75% of songs from previous games.

hey wagram guy stop hatin around here

you dont know anything about super mario galaxy 2



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Does really a thread like this is still relevant? It's only a purpose to make people (Wagram) come here to say again the game doesn't deserve any 10 at all.


Well, 10 exists. It's a number. If it was a number for perfection, no games would have earned it. Because perfection is inexistant in this world. Mario Galaxy 2 is a great game, it deserves the great review. I don't think the 10 means it's perfect in every way. But it's still a score that shows you that this game distance to other one, that this adventure is as good as the first and improved in a certain way. Sure, it doesn't have the same impact, but that would make the relevance of sequels invalid. But we need sequels to build upon the precedent experiment and gave again the player something extraordinary.

The bank of Star Bits is IMO a great clever addition, and with the interest too. The postman Toad is more useful than it was in Galaxy 1. I love when the Starship Mario gathers more and more people on your way. I love the World Map, the level design is better than the first, visuals are more stunning than the first, the soundtrack is as awesome as the first, if not more, the story at the end is well-driven (I wasn't expecting it) and I love Lubba.

So, following what Wagram said, it deserves a 9.9 and Galaxy 1 a 9.8. Because Galaxy 2 is in every aspect superior than its predecessor, and the impact should not be a critera of evalutation because makes sequels irrelevant. The review system is flawed to give 10. 10 should not exist, it's an unworthy number!



twistedcellz said:
Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Nintendogamer said:
I saw no article like this when GTAIV got all the perfect 10's.

Becauuse GTA 4 wasn't made by NIntendo.

It has nothing to do with Nintendo. Nintendo is getting called out for being lazy and copy and pasting their games. Seriously do we need to same music, characters, stars, animations in EVERY GAME? I mean come on?

 

WHAT A TWIST! Mario said "HERE WE GOOO!!!"

Why wasn't Naughy Dog called out for Copy Pasting Uncharted to make Uncharted 2? They even have the unchanged title music, at least Mario Galaxy spiced it up.

Why Wasn't Epic Games called out for copy pasting Gears of War 2?

Why Wasn't Insomniac called out for copy pasting Ratchet and Clank?

Halo 3?

Modern Warfare 2?

Lost Planet 2?

Left 4 Dead 2?

Heck some of these games go so far as to charge you for maps you bought in the previous game!

As you read through my post and try to come up with reasons why these games weren't copy pasted, you have answered why Mario Galaxy 2 wasn't copy pasted.

Don't be an idiot. This isn't just about a song in the game. By the way Mario SMG2 soundtrack uses over 75% of songs from previous games.

hey wagram guy stop hatin around here

you dont know anything about super mario galaxy 2

Yes, beating the game is now knowing nothing about the game.



twistedcellz said:
Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Wagram said:
ph4nt said:
Nintendogamer said:
I saw no article like this when GTAIV got all the perfect 10's.

Becauuse GTA 4 wasn't made by NIntendo.

It has nothing to do with Nintendo. Nintendo is getting called out for being lazy and copy and pasting their games. Seriously do we need to same music, characters, stars, animations in EVERY GAME? I mean come on?

 

WHAT A TWIST! Mario said "HERE WE GOOO!!!"

Why wasn't Naughy Dog called out for Copy Pasting Uncharted to make Uncharted 2? They even have the unchanged title music, at least Mario Galaxy spiced it up.

Why Wasn't Epic Games called out for copy pasting Gears of War 2?

Why Wasn't Insomniac called out for copy pasting Ratchet and Clank?

Halo 3?

Modern Warfare 2?

Lost Planet 2?

Left 4 Dead 2?

Heck some of these games go so far as to charge you for maps you bought in the previous game!

As you read through my post and try to come up with reasons why these games weren't copy pasted, you have answered why Mario Galaxy 2 wasn't copy pasted.

Don't be an idiot. This isn't just about a song in the game. By the way Mario SMG2 soundtrack uses over 75% of songs from previous games.

hey wagram guy stop hatin around here

you dont know anything about super mario galaxy 2

Don't say that, he played it.

And for the songs, barely 15% of the songs are from previous game.