you think they would take out new every year,that would make the old PSEYE customers incompatible with some games

yes really

Speculation?how is it speculation when we are comparing the things what has been shown till now.arm moment whatever NATAL has shown can be done by EYE.

i know we will get some suprises at E3 but till then

"Certainly people should be holding final opinions until E3" -  if you want to then you hold it.this is a gaming forum and we can discuss with what we have now at hand.

if you are so wanting to hold your opinion then comment after E3 and stop now.

Ok I'll play your flame bait game.  From what I know of the psp 2 is pretty shit, its just a fast dsi, doesnt even turn upside down(?)

OOO from numbers that I pulled out of my ass the ps4 doesnt even work.

It is speculation when you compare BETA or even ALPHA or PRE ALPHA to full version, when people do they end up looking like idiots later on.  (cept perhaps star craft 2, keep hearing good things about that for some reason? proove me wrong I dont mind about that), I keep saying you dont know what your talking about, I clearly know a fair bit more than you do.

Yes you can discuss, your posting as though it is FACT, which it clearly is NOT.

There has been a lot of good discussion here.  Not from you.  Again, FLAME BAIT ..

Its not that I want to hold my opinion till after e3, its that contractually I wont be commenting on anything even until after e3.  Its how jobs work in industries, you'll learn that.

edit: just incase anyone takes my first two lines seriously, they arn't fact, nor opinions I have.

edit 2: Dictionary term for Speculation : A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.

You should have titled it, "NATAL can do what PS EYE already done." I haven't seen nothing different between them yet. Hopfully MS will show something new with Natal during E3.

there is a game (which has great soundtrack btw) where you move your golden balls while avoiding MS's Red balls (THEY'RE EVIL!!)

i think the question should not be what it can do, but rather if you could choose between this game and ricochet, which one would you think is more fun?

i would go with this one.

I got this game and played that a lot last year. I wish Sony was marketing these unique games!

Wow, that Trials of Topoq looks terrible. But it does illustrate the difference between Natal and the Eye, which is full 3d recognition versus some 2D-photographic-pseudo-3D-whatever-that-was.

And at the Taipei Game Show this year, Microsoft showed Forza 3 with Natal.
Didn't catch much of it, the crowd was ridiculous that day, and people were crowding around the stage. Too much pushing going on, had to get out of there.
Only got to see them fiddling with menus and selecting their cars before I got elbowed in the back and kneed in the thigh, so I went out and had a smoke. Looked pretty responsive, but it damn well better be navigating a menu.

you already saw PSP2,please show it to me like i showed the video please please please

i didn't pull any numbers or any facts,just comparing on what is showed till now.

and while you have seen PS4 and PSP,why don't you tell me how XBOX NEXT and Wii2 AND DS2 are gonna do.

its not speculation when you are comparing whats available.

"you don't know what you are talking about" - wat are yoy talking about?

if you aren't commneting until E3 then why the above comment