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aye Flash bites on my computer. I have had to run flash blocker to control access.



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Running Lenovo laptop and Flash works fine for me. I'm not going to drink koolaid just because Steve Job said so.

Instead of asking for HTML5, maybe ask Apple to support Flash better?



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
kingofwale said:
Running Lenovo laptop and Flash works fine for me. I'm not going to drink koolaid just because Steve Job said so.

Instead of asking for HTML5, maybe ask Apple to support Flash better?

This.

But be careful what you say, i think Steve jobs sabotaged the website cos of this thread! ha!



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Scruff7 said:
kingofwale said:
Running Lenovo laptop and Flash works fine for me. I'm not going to drink koolaid just because Steve Job said so.

Instead of asking for HTML5, maybe ask Apple to support Flash better?

This.

But be careful what you say, i think Steve jobs sabotaged the website cos of this thread! ha!

what is Stevie going to do to me? Breaking down my door with illegal search warrant??? :P

 

Apple needs to realize that not everything evovles around them. they are slowly becoming the old cocky Microsoft.



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)
kingofwale said:
Running Lenovo laptop and Flash works fine for me. I'm not going to drink koolaid just because Steve Job said so.

Instead of asking for HTML5, maybe ask Apple to support Flash better?

Flash causes a lot of problems regardless of OS or browsers.  It does seem to affect a lot of people.  Not just me as a mac user.  But as a user, I find it frustrating when a site has one flash item that is not correct or bad and it causes my Safari browser to crash.  But this is consistent with other browsers as well like firefox, opera, etc.  Atleast with Firefox, you can use the adblock for flash but why not use open source standards for the world wide web anyway if it's just as good and more openly supported by more site developers.  I won't stop going to VGchartz because of this but it would be nice to see the site move forward with something more stable and standard.  Apple isn't the only company making this statement.  And it'd be cheaper for the site to implement and maintain anyway since it's open source instead of paying Adobe constantly for updates and upgrades on flash software tools.



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While YMMV, I've been running Ubuntu for years and have constantly had problems with flash. For me, freezes, crashes, and overall mediocre performance is not uncommon. And I think most Linux users who know about this subject can agree: performance of flash under Linux is much worse than under Windows.

This isn't a Linux problem or a Mac one, per se. It's an Adobe problem. And as long as Windows controls 90% of the market, Adobe has no real incentive to cater to the needs of minority OSes. Let's look at the facts; that flash is a closed source format which only Adobe can tweak to improve or modify. Which means we are at there mercy if there are any problems.

Let's look past the fact that Steve Jobs is a very rich man, and that it's the in thing to criticize such people. Or that Apple is one of the success stories of the last decade, much to the chagrin of "normal" computer folk. Flash is a resource-hungry, bloated program, created by a company that has no reason whatsoever to improve its performance.

A move to an open standard would be by far the best solution for everyone, regardless of the OS they use.

With that said, VGChartz is one of the most flash-heavy sites that I browse, and with flash enabled, it usually slows to a crawl. I usually use a flash-blocker when I can. If possible, switching to HTML5 would be fantastic.



Hm, I never have a problem with this website or any of its Flash components at all whatsoever. Maybe it's 'cos I use Adblock Plus, dunno, but I can't recall ever having problems with Flash anywhere.



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The only flash objects on the site are the News Rotator (which is being scrapped), the main hardware graph on the front page (which I believe is being changed) and the ads.

So that's 2/3 of the problem solved.



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flash should soon better support hardware acceleration which will help majorly on slower PCs. Only thing is idk about hardware acceleration on Mac. I think it will support it as long as the browsers do. I know Firefox 4 will support it.



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Jaguarandine said:

While YMMV, I've been running Ubuntu for years and have constantly had problems with flash. For me, freezes, crashes, and overall mediocre performance is not uncommon. And I think most Linux users who know about this subject can agree: performance of flash under Linux is much worse than under Windows.

This isn't a Linux problem or a Mac one, per se. It's an Adobe problem. And as long as Windows controls 90% of the market, Adobe has no real incentive to cater to the needs of minority OSes. Let's look at the facts; that flash is a closed source format which only Adobe can tweak to improve or modify. Which means we are at there mercy if there are any problems.

Let's look past the fact that Steve Jobs is a very rich man, and that it's the in thing to criticize such people. Or that Apple is one of the success stories of the last decade, much to the chagrin of "normal" computer folk. Flash is a resource-hungry, bloated program, created by a company that has no reason whatsoever to improve its performance.

A move to an open standard would be by far the best solution for everyone, regardless of the OS they use.

With that said, VGChartz is one of the most flash-heavy sites that I browse, and with flash enabled, it usually slows to a crawl. I usually use a flash-blocker when I can. If possible, switching to HTML5 would be fantastic.

kinda funny coming from a Mac and iPod touch owner. ;)

 

still, I have no problem with Flash,

 



Soriku (Feb 10/08): In 5 years the PS3/360 will be dead.

KH3 bet: "If KH3 comes to Wii exclusive, I will take a 1 month of sig/avatar by otheres open a thread apologize and praise you guys' brilliance." http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=18379
Original cast: Badonkadonkhr, sc94597 allaboutthegames885, kingofwale, Soriku, ctk495, skeezer, RDBRaptor, Mirson,

Episode 1: OOPSY!
selnor
: Too Human I even expect 3-4 mill entire life and 500,000 first day. GoW2 ( expect 7 - 9 million entire life and over 2 mill first day), Fable 2 (expect 5-6 million entire life and 1.5 mill fist day) BK3 (expect 4 - 5 mill sales entire life and 1 mill first day).. Tales/IU/TLR should get to 2 or 3 million! post id: 868878
Episode 2:
Letsdance: FFXIII (PS3+360) first week in NA = 286K
According to pre-order rate in week 13 (post id: 2902544)