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palitococo on 13 May 2010

march its to earlier, but for the end of 2011 sure yes!



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puertoecuanama on 13 May 2010

im 50/50, not 2 sure, im leaning more towards a little later than march 2011...gran turismo should really help, but what else is coming out for ps3?



                 


 

Gilgamesh on 13 May 2010
STEKSTAV said:
Gilgamesh said:
nightsurge said:
Just so you know, PSP's estimate for last year was 15 million, too, before they adjusted it down 5 million to just 10 million after the Go flopped. They are simply way overestimating what affect PS Move will have. Also, MS doesn't do estimates, but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year.

Also, I believe this is the first time a PS3 estimate has not had to be adjusted down in order to be met so you shouldn't assume it will be correct based on one good year.

"but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year."

The most the X360 has sold in a year was 11 million which was in 2008, your saying it's going to sell 1 - 2 million more then that?! I don't think that's possible. First of all Halo, Gears and Fable are not system sellers, the only people that are going to buy them are the existing  X360 owners, we all know that. Second a price cut probably wouldn't make a big difference, I mean it's already selling at $200 and it's in it's 5th year, hell it was on sale for $130 for a while. At the most all they can do is drop both SKU's by 50 bucks and I doubt that'll make a huge difference.

Now for the Slim, no one knows if it's real or not so you can't say it's coming if it's not confirmed. And Natal is the wild card, it could do nothing to sales or help it, it won't make a huge impact. I'm skeptical that Natal and Move will do anything to hardware sales.

From the looks of things the PS3 is going to sell very well in 2010, it's already up like 35% from last year, and the big guns aren't even out yet, the PS3's biggest system seller GT5 should be releasing by the end of the year, that'll sell a ton of PS3's.


What are the big guns? Besides GT5?

The Last Guardian, FFVXIII, FFXIV, Socom 4 (going to be big, way better then Navy seals), Modnation racer, Agent, Twisted Metal, and then all those other sequels for the existing PS3 owners.



STEKSTAV on 13 May 2010
Gilgamesh said:
STEKSTAV said:
Gilgamesh said:
nightsurge said:
Just so you know, PSP's estimate for last year was 15 million, too, before they adjusted it down 5 million to just 10 million after the Go flopped. They are simply way overestimating what affect PS Move will have. Also, MS doesn't do estimates, but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year.

Also, I believe this is the first time a PS3 estimate has not had to be adjusted down in order to be met so you shouldn't assume it will be correct based on one good year.

"but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year."

The most the X360 has sold in a year was 11 million which was in 2008, your saying it's going to sell 1 - 2 million more then that?! I don't think that's possible. First of all Halo, Gears and Fable are not system sellers, the only people that are going to buy them are the existing  X360 owners, we all know that. Second a price cut probably wouldn't make a big difference, I mean it's already selling at $200 and it's in it's 5th year, hell it was on sale for $130 for a while. At the most all they can do is drop both SKU's by 50 bucks and I doubt that'll make a huge difference.

Now for the Slim, no one knows if it's real or not so you can't say it's coming if it's not confirmed. And Natal is the wild card, it could do nothing to sales or help it, it won't make a huge impact. I'm skeptical that Natal and Move will do anything to hardware sales.

From the looks of things the PS3 is going to sell very well in 2010, it's already up like 35% from last year, and the big guns aren't even out yet, the PS3's biggest system seller GT5 should be releasing by the end of the year, that'll sell a ton of PS3's.


What are the big guns? Besides GT5?

The Last Guardian, FFVXIII, FFXIV, Socom 4 (going to be big, way better then Navy seals), Modnation racer, Agent, Twisted Metal, and then all those other sequels for the existing PS3 owners.

I dont see them being huge systemsellers though. A bump with TLG and FF will happen, but a 80+ kart racer isnt really what i would call "big guns". A speculated price cut and slim model for the 360 is bigger than all those games.

Im not saying the PS3 wont go up YoY, but i dont agree with the 360 having nothing, and the PS3 having everything going for it, and even more so when the big guns are MNR, Agent and Twisted Metal.



Barozi on 13 May 2010

March 2011 is pretty much impossible.
It all depends on the success of Natal and how it's bundled with a 360.

Christmas 2010 will be the best time to predict the future. Everything else is more guesswork than prediction.



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jesus kung fu magic on 13 May 2010
Gilgamesh said:
STEKSTAV said:
Gilgamesh said:
nightsurge said:
Just so you know, PSP's estimate for last year was 15 million, too, before they adjusted it down 5 million to just 10 million after the Go flopped. They are simply way overestimating what affect PS Move will have. Also, MS doesn't do estimates, but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year.

Also, I believe this is the first time a PS3 estimate has not had to be adjusted down in order to be met so you shouldn't assume it will be correct based on one good year.

"but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year."

The most the X360 has sold in a year was 11 million which was in 2008, your saying it's going to sell 1 - 2 million more then that?! I don't think that's possible. First of all Halo, Gears and Fable are not system sellers, the only people that are going to buy them are the existing  X360 owners, we all know that. Second a price cut probably wouldn't make a big difference, I mean it's already selling at $200 and it's in it's 5th year, hell it was on sale for $130 for a while. At the most all they can do is drop both SKU's by 50 bucks and I doubt that'll make a huge difference.

Now for the Slim, no one knows if it's real or not so you can't say it's coming if it's not confirmed. And Natal is the wild card, it could do nothing to sales or help it, it won't make a huge impact. I'm skeptical that Natal and Move will do anything to hardware sales.

From the looks of things the PS3 is going to sell very well in 2010, it's already up like 35% from last year, and the big guns aren't even out yet, the PS3's biggest system seller GT5 should be releasing by the end of the year, that'll sell a ton of PS3's.


What are the big guns? Besides GT5?

The Last Guardian, FFVXIII, FFXIV, Socom 4 (going to be big, way better then Navy seals), Modnation racer, Agent, Twisted Metal, and then all those other sequels for the existing PS3 owners.

I love how you said that halo , gears and fable arent system sellers and then go on to name games you think are system sellers when the fact is they arent.

You never disappoint



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SpartenOmega117 on 13 May 2010

there is a chance PS3 will outsell xbox by 2011. Remember many places in the U.S. still dont have PS3 in stock. I haven't seen one in stock since January. I think retailers will definately want to build up inventory on PS3s which will probably help. Also i am almost positive Sony will bundle Gran turismo 5 with the Slim this fall which will definitely help a lot. Killzone 3 next year would also really help. I honestly dont think many people have even heard of killzone. There is a chance sony might include a beta for killzone 3 with gran turismo 5 which will probably guarantee big numbers for killzone 3 as well.



Thechalkblock on 13 May 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:

And when it doesnt.....there is always 2012 ,2013, 2014.......

Haha yup pretty much.



STEKSTAV on 13 May 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:
Gilgamesh said:
STEKSTAV said:
Gilgamesh said:
nightsurge said:
Just so you know, PSP's estimate for last year was 15 million, too, before they adjusted it down 5 million to just 10 million after the Go flopped. They are simply way overestimating what affect PS Move will have. Also, MS doesn't do estimates, but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year.

Also, I believe this is the first time a PS3 estimate has not had to be adjusted down in order to be met so you shouldn't assume it will be correct based on one good year.

"but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year."

The most the X360 has sold in a year was 11 million which was in 2008, your saying it's going to sell 1 - 2 million more then that?! I don't think that's possible. First of all Halo, Gears and Fable are not system sellers, the only people that are going to buy them are the existing  X360 owners, we all know that. Second a price cut probably wouldn't make a big difference, I mean it's already selling at $200 and it's in it's 5th year, hell it was on sale for $130 for a while. At the most all they can do is drop both SKU's by 50 bucks and I doubt that'll make a huge difference.

Now for the Slim, no one knows if it's real or not so you can't say it's coming if it's not confirmed. And Natal is the wild card, it could do nothing to sales or help it, it won't make a huge impact. I'm skeptical that Natal and Move will do anything to hardware sales.

From the looks of things the PS3 is going to sell very well in 2010, it's already up like 35% from last year, and the big guns aren't even out yet, the PS3's biggest system seller GT5 should be releasing by the end of the year, that'll sell a ton of PS3's.


What are the big guns? Besides GT5?

The Last Guardian, FFVXIII, FFXIV, Socom 4 (going to be big, way better then Navy seals), Modnation racer, Agent, Twisted Metal, and then all those other sequels for the existing PS3 owners.

I love how you said that halo , gears and fable arent system sellers and then go on to name games you think are system sellers when the fact is they arent.

You never disappoint

Something like that yeah.

Maybe if he had mentioned some PS3 3D advances, price cuts or LBP2, Killzone 2 and RE3 or whatever. Maybe a Move systemseller theory. But to go with Agent and MNR as a means to hit 15m ps3s, while a the same time down talk halo and gears :)



iWarMachine on 13 May 2010
STEKSTAV said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Gilgamesh said:
STEKSTAV said:
Gilgamesh said:
nightsurge said:
Just so you know, PSP's estimate for last year was 15 million, too, before they adjusted it down 5 million to just 10 million after the Go flopped. They are simply way overestimating what affect PS Move will have. Also, MS doesn't do estimates, but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year.

Also, I believe this is the first time a PS3 estimate has not had to be adjusted down in order to be met so you shouldn't assume it will be correct based on one good year.

"but I expect they are set to sell at least 12-13 million if not more thanks to Slim + Price Cut + Natal + Halo + Gears + Fable all coming in the next fiscal year."

The most the X360 has sold in a year was 11 million which was in 2008, your saying it's going to sell 1 - 2 million more then that?! I don't think that's possible. First of all Halo, Gears and Fable are not system sellers, the only people that are going to buy them are the existing  X360 owners, we all know that. Second a price cut probably wouldn't make a big difference, I mean it's already selling at $200 and it's in it's 5th year, hell it was on sale for $130 for a while. At the most all they can do is drop both SKU's by 50 bucks and I doubt that'll make a huge difference.

Now for the Slim, no one knows if it's real or not so you can't say it's coming if it's not confirmed. And Natal is the wild card, it could do nothing to sales or help it, it won't make a huge impact. I'm skeptical that Natal and Move will do anything to hardware sales.

From the looks of things the PS3 is going to sell very well in 2010, it's already up like 35% from last year, and the big guns aren't even out yet, the PS3's biggest system seller GT5 should be releasing by the end of the year, that'll sell a ton of PS3's.


What are the big guns? Besides GT5?

The Last Guardian, FFVXIII, FFXIV, Socom 4 (going to be big, way better then Navy seals), Modnation racer, Agent, Twisted Metal, and then all those other sequels for the existing PS3 owners.

I love how you said that halo , gears and fable arent system sellers and then go on to name games you think are system sellers when the fact is they arent.

You never disappoint

Something like that yeah.

Maybe if he had mentioned some PS3 3D advances, price cuts or LBP2, Killzone 2 and RE3 or whatever. Maybe a Move systemseller theory. But to go with Agent and MNR as a means to hit 15m ps3s, while a the same time down talk halo and gears :)

why do you think that Halo:Reach (the 3rd Halo Game on the platform) Gears 3 (the 3rd Gears Game on the platform) or Fable 3 (the 2nd Fable game on the platform) will be huge system sellers like Agent, The Last Guardian, GT5, or SOCOM4....

The only big weapon from MS imo, it's Natal...

While Sony has all those games i mentioned before, plus Move, plus 3D.



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