With all the news that spread throughout Internet about the new iPhone, the successful launch of the IPad, the upcoming "gaming center" and the growing of the AppStore, is really Apple trying to infiltrate the gaming industry? It might be flash mini-games, but with the success of their handhelds, the demand will increase and they will have to create deeper and more complex games.

What do you think about the expansion of Apple in the gaming industry? Will VGchartz compile someday the sales of the Apple's systems? Will the gaming industry recognize Apple as a new entry?

I'll take a guess and say that Apple will enter the market if NPD and other market researcher are able to retrace the sales of softwares.

Are people recognizing Ipod/Pad as gaming systems? I don't think so. But Apple is becoming a treat since the Ipod begins to substitute the purchase of a DS or PSP as an opportunity cost for some people.

But again, softwares need to be improved further. I think that games need to be the main point of the Ipod to bring recognition to the system as a "gaming" one.

When will Apple's systems be recognized as gaming handhelds? 2012?

When the PSP is recognized as a phone.

When I am recognized as Martha Stewart...

err whenever big boss guy decides to

The iPhone already has its own tag in the database. Since VGC doesn't have an effective way to track hardware or software sales on the platform, the only other thing they could do is add a Mobile or Apple category to the forums.

If you mean the community itself, more and more people are quietly converting all the time. Whether it's because they're gaming on the platforms themselves, or because all the major publishers are publishing games for it, or because it's getting software ported from the other handheld platforms, people are coming around.

The reluctance is somewhat understandable. Apple took a very oblique path into handheld gaming, but it's getting harder and harder to for people to rationalize that it isn't a gaming platform.

When the PC is considered a home console. It fits the scenario you outlined very nicely.

I don't see how it can not be called a gaming platform, because it has games on it.

Whether it sucks or not, or the games are playable, is different story,

All I know is Plants vs. Zombies on my iPhone is better than any DS game I have and about 1/15th the price!

Been playing games on my Nokia for ages. So, let's put Nokia there too shall we?

The problem is, that without a clear cut, there should be hundreds of systems tracked. If you notice, the site isn't even tracking PC sales either. And PC has a lot bigger impact on games market than the Apple products.
Then, the DLC games are virtually impossible to track because of the lack for a source of information.

We can still track the hardware sales.