I'm surprised this is a debate, the man kills gods with ease.

and blinds the hell outta him, blinded cronos

Khuutra No where have I read that Link can't be grabbed with the cape. I think you are just taking shitty AI and programming as a rule... Kratos isn't shitty AI. If link can hit kratos then kratos can touch link. If link cant be hit then

I've beaten the first two games on theirh hardest difficulties and I Platinumed GoW3 a few days ago - my first Platinum, mind. Chains of Olympus is the only PSP game I've played. I was one of the guys who was coming up with ways for Kratos to kill Bayonetta before GoW3 came out. I do this not because I prefer one game over the other, but because I like the exercise in logic and bullshitting.

Don't try to pigeonhole my motive here. I'm arguing because I like beating people in arguments.

And yeah, it's plenty storng enough to fight Kratos. Kratos's strength is nowhere near being consistent, and there a also many, many enemies that he can't just grab out of nowhere, including every single boss. Kratos's standard level of strength at any given time is far below Link's - the only tim when his strength goes off the charts (like when fighting Cronos) is when he's got Hope on his side, and Hope isn't going to avail him against someone who isn't a threat against humanity.

Regardless, the Magic Cape and Chateau Romani ended this argument forever ago. Kratos can't grab Link, he can't hit Link, but Link can hit him. Kratos can't dodge what he can't see.

If you want to continue this, please, just.... pick a scenario where Link doesn't have both Chateau Romani and one of his unbeatable invincibility items.

Kratos has no canonical items that give him invulnerability.

Link wouldn't even stand a chance. Lol.

LOL I'm done taking you seriously no Khuutra. Kratos strength is pretty consistant. If you want to take the "Kratos can't grab some enemies" Then I say "Link cant jump" That was the worst arguement you've had. And Kratos can see Link's shadow so he could dodge all day long. I can see you aren't thinking logically. If you were then you wouldn't be so biased with Link... and yes I am calling out your motives. If you weren't biased you wouldn't have tried to pull the "Kratos can't grab everyone" as Link then can't do many things... including talk!

...what the Hell?

Your whole argument hinges on Kratos's ability to grab Link when Links is intangible, but you don't think it's important that Kratos is unable to grapple with about 80% of the enemies in his own game without hurting them severely? That's immensely important, because it's the lynchpin of your entire argument and it doesn't make sense in the context of Kratos's own game! It's been true since the fist one.

And no, Kratos's strength is not consistent - there's a reason he has so much trouble opening the big brass door into Hades's palace, but then a few hours later he's able to push back against Hercules or push apart the fingers of Cronos. This inconsistency can be explained canonically, yes, because every time Kratos went up against a god or a titan he had Hope on his isde, and Hope is what makes him so powerful, but Hope doesn't avail him against lesser enemies or even against some bosses, and it's not going to avail him against a paragon of viirtue and good.

Also, by your logic I'm apparently biased toward Kratos too, since I argued for him over Bayonetta.

I think the problem is that you're not willing to admit that you accidentally put Kratos into an unwinnable scenario when you let him go up against a Link with the skill of all Links combined.

I was reading this discussion with interest but letsdance, you can't start a discussion and pull out the ad hominem on everyone who disagrees with your views. You're effectly killing your own discussion this way. And frankly, it's ruined this thread which is extremely annoying for everyone involved.

you cannot deny logic like that. Even if you claim it broken you must abide by some rules. YYou can't have someone touching someone else while the other cannot touch that said person at that exact moment. not that anyone else could interfere but that specific person. And if he is able to run out of magic then kratos has already won on that too. ..

And kratos does grab some people within QTE's while they attack him. And certainly he can use that to his advantage to win any fight.