I just dont think games can be all that exciting with no buttons you will be very limited in what you can do imo. I dont enjoy the wii so i dont know what i will think of move. depends on the games i guess. but i dont have much interest in any motion controls.

move can suck my dick...know what im saying?

My point being that it does recognize depth. I thought it obvious.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Natal#Sensor

http://gizmodo.com/5277954/testing-project-natal-we-touched-the-intangible

"There are two cameras—one RGB, for face recognition and display video, and one infrared, for tracking movement and depth... It breaks the human body into 48 points tracked in real time, and it can sense your whole body in Z space, or depth."

The video above simply discussed the precision of depth measurement.

I realize this has been said several times since, but here is a link. There are plenty if you'd simply search 'Natal depth.'

Edit: This is an absurd statement anyway. Hell, we've seen it work in videos (e.g. swinging an arm forward in the same motion on screen).

Edit 2: What makes it even more absurd is what chapset has pointed out. He didn't even say any such thing.

Lol very good points squilliam, I want the move to succeed as I do natal, I just hope the software is compelling enough because other than socom everything else seems to be pretty meh, but unlike many on here im an optimist that will remain that way until the thing launches without a single experience that deems the move worthy of a purchase, and natal for that matter.  Some of you really just need to give it a chance, at least wait until the damn thing is out to make any judgements.  I also doubt that any of you know the real technical specs of each device, so who the hell knows if natal has great depth perception or if the move is really better, a better question is who the fuck cares?  I fully believe that sony and microsoft will do some amazing things with the hardware, not just casual shovelware bullshit.  I was skeptical of the wii when it first came out and look what its doing now, im not gonna make the same mistake twice.  Dont underestimate these kinds of things.

oh, well thanks for clearing that up

Does the move only use the camera to track motion? Or is there some other sort of tracking as well incase the globe gets covered? I'm not too sure about the technilogy of things but old remote if you put them under a blanket or something they wouldnt work, but now days they would work. If the globe was somehow blocked by my movement(either behind my back, or covered by my arm, etc.) would it still be able to be tracked?

The real big caveat is that if 3rd parties haven't found success that they'd like on the Wii, then why would anyone assume that Sony's B/C team developers and 3rd parties will find that same success on the PS3 Move? If Sony doesn't support it from the ground up with their tier 1 software developers as Nintendo have done with software designed for the system from the ground up, then the question remains about whether it will succeed.

watch the engadget show on my official thread, the guy's cover it up several times, and the ps move is still tracked, but by bluetooth mode, basically it works like a wiimote when it is covered up;) (which means it's better when it's not covered up)

After reading some developer feedback on Natal, I am willing to bet that Ps Move will have less lag than Natal when it comes out, I think they said it was around 125ms to interpret a move, if that is without tv delay then we are looking at a 200ms+ lag for Natal

Wow that's... that's just terrible... I think he may have gotten Natal mixed up with the PS Eye itself, or that he just doesn't understand how the 3D camera tech works cause he's just blatantly wrong.

The idea of 3D camera tech is that it basically maps out everything it sees in 3D and that includes judging on the X, Y, and Z planes. Thats the big difference between PS Eye and Natal, which is the whole "innovation", PS Eye judges depth by seeing an object get bigger or smaller, but if you had a balloon deflate in front of it, it would assume the balloon is actually going away from the camera since the object is getting smaller, Natal would actually see the balloon deflate.

Not that the end result of the two cameras is different, the 3D tech makes it more accurate for motions and details with the motions, but outside of that I don't see how many games could benefit from the tech.

If you wanted to show "proof" as to why Move is better than Natal, that video isn't it, you could post one of the many videos of Natal actually glitching up at E3 and show it side by side with some actual games being played or that tech demo MakingMusic shows everyone to have a much better argument, and a much better thread.