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bazmeistergen on 07 March 2010
lvader said:
impur1ty said:
Demotruk said:
It's funny how many people in this thread post as though reading websites was a right, but getting ad revenue is a privilege. So many "I'd turn off my ad blocker if...." and "until then, I'm leaving it on". It sounds like these people think they are entitled to read whatever site they like, regardless of the cost to the site provider. It's an attitude that justifies any abuse of power, 'if I can do it, and it doesn't hurt me directly, why not? I feel entitled anyway.'

 

Entitlement is not based on your opinion. Anyone is entitled to block adds. That is a fact.

And the web site owner is entitled to block/ban you for doing so. Also a fact.

That's true, but it will defeat the purpose of having adverts in the first place.



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ssj12 on 07 March 2010
scottie said:
Wagram said:
ssj12 said:
Wagram said:
ssj12 said:
Wagram said:
Looks like i'll be heading back to kotaku then :/

you could do as I said and support us in the ways listed.. prevent this entire thing.

I would, but the ads stress my internet too much where it becomes unbearable. I live out in the sticks, so good internet isn't available unfortunately.

then digg articles, use other methods. Buy a gamer shit from Gamer Prints. Its very easy to support us. Tons of ways.

I'll look into it. But I hope you guys don't pull the plug on me. Would be slightly unfair to those who are in my situation. :D

All I'm hearing is a big whinge. Your profile says you live in the USA. I'm willing to bet that you're internet speed is faster than mine. It's officially rated at 0.5 Mb/s, but I seem to live at the end of the line because I've never got anything to load/download at higher than 70 kb/s. I use Chrome and no adblocker and the site is fine.

 

Now c'mon. What's your internet speed? Also what browser do you use (and if you say anything except Chrome, then you are a very selfish man, disabling adverts to increase speed when the problem is actually your broswer)

Yes i have much faster internet then you. I have a 40/5 internet speed.

Still, I stand by my statement. Support us.



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Rainbird on 07 March 2010

I'ma digging!



sabby_e17 on 07 March 2010

I never use ad blocker. Probably because I don't get crazy ads like some people are saying.




bazmeistergen on 07 March 2010
ioi said:
impur1ty said:
lvader said:
impur1ty said:

 

Entitlement is not based on your opinion. Anyone is entitled to block adds. That is a fact.

And the web site owner is entitled to block/ban you for doing so. Also a fact.

 

You're exactly right. That's my point.

So in that case you are not entitled to block ads on this site and continue to view the content, correct?

Well he is until you block or ban them, I guess.

Is there no better way of doing it? It seems draconian to me. How will you notify potential new users that have adblocking on? How will they be able to check out the site for the first time or as a guest?



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scottie on 07 March 2010
ssj12 said:
scottie said:
Wagram said:
ssj12 said:
Wagram said:
ssj12 said:
Wagram said:
Looks like i'll be heading back to kotaku then :/

you could do as I said and support us in the ways listed.. prevent this entire thing.

I would, but the ads stress my internet too much where it becomes unbearable. I live out in the sticks, so good internet isn't available unfortunately.

then digg articles, use other methods. Buy a gamer shit from Gamer Prints. Its very easy to support us. Tons of ways.

I'll look into it. But I hope you guys don't pull the plug on me. Would be slightly unfair to those who are in my situation. :D

All I'm hearing is a big whinge. Your profile says you live in the USA. I'm willing to bet that you're internet speed is faster than mine. It's officially rated at 0.5 Mb/s, but I seem to live at the end of the line because I've never got anything to load/download at higher than 70 kb/s. I use Chrome and no adblocker and the site is fine.

 

Now c'mon. What's your internet speed? Also what browser do you use (and if you say anything except Chrome, then you are a very selfish man, disabling adverts to increase speed when the problem is actually your broswer)

Yes i have much faster internet then you. I have a 40/5 internet speed.

Still, I stand by my statement. Support us.

Hmm? I was talking to wagram - I don't believe his 'ads make the site load slow' line

 

On topic - Didn't VGChartz recently prioritise traffic for logged on users. Couldn't you just also deprioritise those who use adblock? It'd be nicer than blocking access completely, but would hopefully convince them to not use it



wiilicious on 07 March 2010

I wont make an argumentation about the term of use since it's not the point here. Like i said i will support your website if such system is implement.

I was just wondering about content blocking. Do you want to create something à la IGN Insiders or remove the content we have access right now.

On another note i know that membership fee paid monthly will give you more regular revenues but I still think some members would be more willing to make a donation anyway to support the website without having to pay a monthly fee. I think you might have more support with donation vs monthly fee. But on a business point of view I understand that monthly fee is better. But such fee should be reasonable.

I don't know what the effect of a monthly a little to high would have on this community. What prevent them to go somewhere else (ex: IGN (IGN INSIDERS). I think we have a great community here and I would like to keep as much members as we can and help you support the development and the existance of VGCHARTZ.



 

Mise on 07 March 2010
scottie said:

Hmm? I was talking to wagram - I don't believe his 'ads make the site load slow' line

They do. If you're using a rig that's a few years old or lacks in horsepower otherwise, the massive Flash spamming on the front page can make it really tedious to get thru, and it doesn't really ease up on the site proper, either.

It's not an issue for my laptop since it's fairly new, but ie. for the workstations in my university's computer rooms the site is essentially unusable, regardless of the bowser used.



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Tallgeese101 on 07 March 2010

And Adblock is back on for VGchartz, that "spin the bottle" ad is a joke.



impur1ty on 07 March 2010
ioi said:
impur1ty said:
lvader said:
impur1ty said:

 

Entitlement is not based on your opinion. Anyone is entitled to block adds. That is a fact.

And the web site owner is entitled to block/ban you for doing so. Also a fact.

 

You're exactly right. That's my point.

So in that case you are not entitled to block ads on this site and continue to view the content, correct?

 

User is entitled to block adds, site owner is entitled to block any user they wish. Simple.

 

There are sites out there that just display a splash screen to those who have adblock. Something along the lines of: "Users must disable ablock for this site if they wish to view content." It's then up to the user whether they believe it is worth it.