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JRPGfan said:
Machiavellian said:

Nope.  MS has stated on more than one occasion that gamepass, Xcloud is the future.  MS will be pushing to make both very successful and since Xcloud and gamepass really go very well together it make sense that MS would want them on as many platforms as possible.  Would you consider this any different from Google Standia.  Do you believe Google cares if you use their could service on Xbox, PS or Nintendo system, No.  From interviews, it seems MS is already trying to get away from the console wars and move into new territory.  That territory is where content is king and the hardware can be considered like a PC where any vendor can create the hardware to run it.

The problem is the "Has no futher plans to bring first party games to other platforms" statement from a few days ago.

If they want to go 3rd party just be truthfull and admit it, which seemingly this "our future goal is gamepass on all platforms" kinda is.
You know the only reason they re trying not to say that, currently is because they wish to sell you a Xbox Two, as a place to play Xbox exclusives.

Imagine if mid gen, the PS5 gets gamepass?
At that point, was the purpose of owning a xbox two?

Your first paragraph is a near term strategy.  Mean at this point in time, there isn't any other first party games they see going to another platform.  That can easily change with any new game or content depending on their strategy.   

If MS wants to go 3rd party, they will let everyone know when they are ready.  It would be silly to pronounce a third party strategy if you do not have all the tools, marketing, software, partnerships etc in place first.  Why would a business even make such a statement until they have everything lined up first.  Also, who says they are going a 3rd party strategy.  MS could easily just have XCloud be on everything besides PS system.  The full details probably isn't even close to being a reality any time soon so why don't we sit back and relax.  

I am sure MS would want XCloud be something like Netflix, where you cannot purchase any media device without having the option of it already installed and ready to stream games.  That is probably not going to happen in the next gen or if it does it probably will be late but who knows.  Things can change.



Machiavellian said:
JRPGfan said:

The problem is the "Has no futher plans to bring first party games to other platforms" statement from a few days ago.

If they want to go 3rd party just be truthfull and admit it, which seemingly this "our future goal is gamepass on all platforms" kinda is.
You know the only reason they re trying not to say that, currently is because they wish to sell you a Xbox Two, as a place to play Xbox exclusives.

Imagine if mid gen, the PS5 gets gamepass?
At that point, was the purpose of owning a xbox two?

Your first paragraph is a near term strategy.  Mean at this point in time, there isn't any other first party games they see going to another platform.  That can easily change with any new game or content depending on their strategy.   

If MS wants to go 3rd party, they will let everyone know when they are ready.  It would be silly to pronounce a third party strategy if you do not have all the tools, marketing, software, partnerships etc in place first.  Why would a business even make such a statement until they have everything lined up first.  Also, who says they are going a 3rd party strategy.  MS could easily just have XCloud be on everything besides PS system.  The full details probably isn't even close to being a reality any time soon so why don't we sit back and relax.  

I am sure MS would want XCloud be something like Netflix, where you cannot purchase any media device without having the option of it already installed and ready to stream games.  That is probably not going to happen in the next gen or if it does it probably will be late but who knows.  Things can change.

Thats the thing.... are the breadcrums currently leading that way?
We know theres gonna be a Xbox Two, but do you believe MS will make a Xbox Three ? or will they have gone 3rd by that time?

And does knowing thats where MS wants to head... make you want to buy into the xbox hardware side of things any less?
Imagine they actually do manage to get gamepass to PS5, and Switch (via streaming)...  I'd feels bad about haveing bought the hardware, if I knew there was a competitive product, that had exclusives along with everything else you had.

Also at this point, even if Xbox gave a clear definitive answear, saying otherwise.... would you trust that?
I feel like their messaging and stuff turning out, differntly than they say happends too often.  Like Where was the VR for xbox one X? the occulus rift + vive support? and the VR games? They said that would be there, and a year lateron its just "sorry, we re not doing that".

At this point in time, theres enough breadcrums that if I was a xbox fan, I'd be worried about its future.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 25 August 2019

JRPGfan said:
Machiavellian said:

Your first paragraph is a near term strategy.  Mean at this point in time, there isn't any other first party games they see going to another platform.  That can easily change with any new game or content depending on their strategy.   

If MS wants to go 3rd party, they will let everyone know when they are ready.  It would be silly to pronounce a third party strategy if you do not have all the tools, marketing, software, partnerships etc in place first.  Why would a business even make such a statement until they have everything lined up first.  Also, who says they are going a 3rd party strategy.  MS could easily just have XCloud be on everything besides PS system.  The full details probably isn't even close to being a reality any time soon so why don't we sit back and relax.  

I am sure MS would want XCloud be something like Netflix, where you cannot purchase any media device without having the option of it already installed and ready to stream games.  That is probably not going to happen in the next gen or if it does it probably will be late but who knows.  Things can change.

Thats the thing.... are the breadcrums currently leading that way?
We know theres gonna be a Xbox Two, but do you believe MS will make a Xbox Three ? or will they have gone 3rd by that time?

Yes, there are breadcrumbs but you will have to walk more than a marathon before you see the reality.  I am positive that MS sees a future where streaming services and something like Gamepass and XCloud is the future but its not here yet.  A company can do 2 things when technology comes to a point where it can change and break a market, you either jump right in and be ready or you can continue to go down the same strategy you did before and get left behind.  Sony saw it with PSNOW, Google sees it with Standia and of course MS sees it with Gamepass and XCloud.  Who knows what Apple is doing but I am sure its something.  

Personally, no one knows if either Sony, MS or Nintendo will continue to make hardware.  It will depend on the hardware experience compared to the game content.



PotentHerbs said:

This thread has been all about MS PR.

Who said anything about Xbox IP's being interesting? There is little incentive to invest in the Xbox ecosystem. 

If no one cared for Xbox IPs than threads like these would be barran. But seems we have 14 pages and counting on comments curious to know where these IPs land. Why are you in here if you dont care for Xbox IPs?

Seems there is a good reason to invest into the eco system because everyone seems to want there games on multiplatform.

Truth hurts i get that.



CGI-Quality said:
Snoopy said:

You didn't ask me what type of sources you wanted.

The sources showed compelling reasons why movie theaters will be going away soon. Not to mention I gave you a link on youtube that shows movie theaters are closing in a lot of communities, my included. Torillian's source proves me right as well. Stagnating growth is usually the first sign of a business going under unless they change their business model completely.

Torillian’s source actually refuted what you were saying and did so without opinion (unlike what you provided). Call it what you want, but movie theaters aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. 

Torillian’s source showed the movie theater count in the US is staying at the same level for quite some time. That is the first sign the theater business is going to collapse eventually. Soon all the major picture film studios will have their own streaming service or do partnerships with Netflix. In order to keep the consumer engage in their service, they must release new content all the time. Once these movies are day one on a streaming service, say goodbye to movie theaters.



Azzanation said:
PotentHerbs said:

This thread has been all about MS PR.

Who said anything about Xbox IP's being interesting? There is little incentive to invest in the Xbox ecosystem. 

If no one cared for Xbox IPs than threads like these would be barran. But seems we have 14 pages and counting on comments curious to know where these IPs land. Why are you in here if you dont care for Xbox IPs?

Seems there is a good reason to invest into the eco system because everyone seems to want there games on multiplatform.

Truth hurts i get that.

How many people in this thread are clamoring for Xbox exclusives compared to the amount of people criticizing MS PR? Xbox One would be doing better if consumers actually wanted to invest in the Xbox ecosystem.

Just the facts, man.



PotentHerbs said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

The average consumer doesn’t read any of this stuff.

There was zero contradiction in that GamePass on all platforms quote.

Phil has said so many conflicting things its hard to keep track of them all. From E3 this year: 

https://ca.ign.com/articles/2019/06/19/phil-spencer-xbox-focus-is-on-software-and-services-not-console-sales

"Spencer further defended Microsoft's strategy. 'There’s always the core that kind of comes back [with]: 'You’re reducing the need to buy an Xbox.' I actually find that in reality people play on a console because they enjoy playing on a television on the couch with a controller in their hands, and it’s an experiential thing more than it is trying to sell an individual device. To shorten it: We focus on the player; we don’t focus on the device."

The average consumer will definitely see this headline as most major gaming sites will cover it.

That’s cool but doesn’t change or relate to anything I said. And obviously E3 news will be more covered than other news cycles, but the average consumer still won’t see it. The average video game consumer doesn’t pay attention to E3. Its for hardcore gamers. Reading video game news is for hardcore gamers. Which just makes it funnier when hardcore gamers act like they have no idea what Microsoft is saying.



Snoopy said:
CGI-Quality said:

Torillian’s source actually refuted what you were saying and did so without opinion (unlike what you provided). Call it what you want, but movie theaters aren’t going anywhere anytime soon. 

Torillian’s source showed the movie theater count in the US is staying at the same level for quite some time. That is the first sign the theater business is going to collapse eventually. Soon all the major picture film studios will have their own streaming service or do partnerships with Netflix. In order to keep the consumer engage in their service, they must release new content all the time. Once these movies are day one on a streaming service, say goodbye to movie theaters.

Your idea won't come to fruition anytime soon, so it's meaningless for you to keep repeating this. The data provided says otherwise. 



                                                                                                                                            

PotentHerbs said:

How many people in this thread are clamoring for Xbox exclusives compared to the amount of people criticizing MS PR? Xbox One would be doing better if consumers actually wanted to invest in the Xbox ecosystem.

Just the facts, man.

Ask all those Switch owners who can finally play games like Cuphead and Ori than come back to your original comment. Or better yet, all those Steam users who get to play Halo MCC. Seems like alot of gamers are happy with the decisions. And here you are acting as if Xbox has no games to care about.

Gamers already want to see Ori 2 on multiplatform.

The fact there is such a big interest with threads about MS IPs goes to show alot of people actually care for them or want them. 

I can tell you one thing, i wont be investing my time in threads about IPs i could care less about. 

And here you are in a MS thread about there PR talk about there 1st party games. Obvious is obvious.



Azzanation said:
PotentHerbs said:

How many people in this thread are clamoring for Xbox exclusives compared to the amount of people criticizing MS PR? Xbox One would be doing better if consumers actually wanted to invest in the Xbox ecosystem.

Just the facts, man.

Ask all those Switch owners who can finally play games like Cuphead and Ori than come back to your original comment. Or better yet, all those Steam users who get to play Halo MCC. Seems like alot of gamers are happy with the decisions. And here you are acting as if Xbox has no games to care about.

Gamers already want to see Ori 2 on multiplatform.

The fact there is such a big interest with threads about MS IPs goes to show alot of people actually care for them or want them. 

I can tell you one thing, i wont be investing my time in threads about IPs i could care less about. 

And here you are in a MS thread about there PR talk about there 1st party games. Obvious is obvious.

You tried to spin this thread, majorly a discussion about MS PR, to posters on this forum who apparently have an interest in MS IP's. How many other threads on this site, discussing actual MS IP's, get this amount of discussion? 

Anyways, this isn't the only MS related thread I post on.