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TheMisterManGuy said:

Yes, it's more fiddly if you want to chat with head phones on Switch due to the lack of any convenient way to combine both game and chat audio output. This is again, something that should be addressed. The point is that many people won't care about using headphones in most situations unless they're out in public. To those people who are playing at home, this setup is fine. Generally speaking, it's a concept that should be more fleshed out if it wants to be more useful. 

See that's a reasonable thing to say. I can accept that. The only thing I slightly disagree with is:

"The point is that many people won't care about using headphones in most situations unless they're out in public. "

Again I like what I am talking about to be mostly private, even if of course my side is going to be audible to my housemates. Headphones have been bought for consoles for like a decade so clearly this isn't entirely true although you could argue that's necessity but I think for the most part it's also convenience.

You are being fairly reasonable with your point, I think you are just going a bit too far in denying the comfort and convenience most people have with headphones. Personally, I like them, don't use them for consoles much though. 



SKMBlake said:
All the fuzz about the negative features of the online is the same as the negative fuzz about the console itself - lack of games, small storage space, poor battery life - and now everyone is enjoying the console.

Pretty much this, and it’s all the exact same people as well.

I imagine they’re all whiny entitled millennials, probably living with their parents looking for handouts. One of them even had a thread with a petition to get Nintendo right above a petition to get his mommy to buy him a 4K TV. It was so ridiculous that many of us suspected it was satire until we found out otherwise.

tbough I agree that if I want to use voice chat I don’t want my phone involved - but I’m not going to get all depressed about it and take temper tantrums over it like some of the Online-Spartacuses in forums like this one.



I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

TheMisterManGuy said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

...

What?

Headphone = 1 device

Headphone + phone = 2 devices

This isn't complicated

Except you don't have to use headphones with the app. Just open it, and put it on a coffee table or counter. Yes, most would like an option to use a headset connected directly to the Switch, but you really don't need the Hori Splat and Chat mess that people initially feared. 

They could have included a Microphone built into the Switch as well.
Microphones are cheap, like a few cents cheap. Apparently Nintendo is cheaper.

Headsets are always going to be the preferred mode of communication for it's obvious benefits.

Running your Switch through a phone is NOT intuitive, it's slow, prone to issues (I.E. More weak links in the chain) and you unnecessarily drain the battery life of your cordless telecommunications device.

Jumpin said:

but I’m not going to get all depressed about it and take temper tantrums over it like some of the Online-Spartacuses in forums like this one.

I am going to voice my opinion, this is a forum, it's to be expected. Don't like it? Stiff. - Provided I adhere to the rules and standards that are typically governed.



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Pemalite said:

They could have included a Microphone built into the Switch as well.
Microphones are cheap, like a few cents cheap. Apparently Nintendo is cheaper.

Headsets are always going to be the preferred mode of communication for it's obvious benefits.

Running your Switch through a phone is NOT intuitive, it's slow, prone to issues (I.E. More weak links in the chain) and you unnecessarily drain the battery life of your cordless telecommunications device.



Yes, they could've included a mic, but they didn't (not sure why though), so this is what they have. A headset is only prefered by hardcore gamers due to it allowing for private communication. Nintendo doesn't target hardcore gamers the way Sony and Microsoft do though, so everything they do must involve the casual gamer, which means finding a method to appeal to them, thus open mic through phone. And again, most people who've used the app say it actually works well is way more intuitive than they thought. It's again, not the most perfectly implemented method, but it works and is easy to setup. BTW, the battery draining issues have been fixed in later updates as the app can now run in the background, even with the phone locked. 



TheMisterManGuy said:

Yes, they could've included a mic, but they didn't (not sure why though), so this is what they have.

Precisely. Hence why we are allowed to provide criticism where criticism is due.

TheMisterManGuy said:

A headset is only prefered by hardcore gamers due to it allowing for private communication.

Hardcore gamers? ...I don't wear a headset, I prefer my full 5.1 sound system.

TheMisterManGuy said:

Nintendo doesn't target hardcore gamers the way Sony and Microsoft do though, so everything they do must involve the casual gamer, which means finding a method to appeal to them, thus open mic through phone.

No way you spin it... Can make Nintendo's approach on this seem tenable. Hard Core or Casual, doesn't matter.
If anything it is even worst for a casual as they tend to be the last lot of people who want things to be more cumbersome and technical.

TheMisterManGuy said:

And again, most people who've used the app say it actually works well is way more intuitive than they thought. It's again, not the most perfectly implemented method, but it works and is easy to setup. BTW, the battery draining issues have been fixed in later updates as the app can now run in the background, even with the phone locked. 

The issue isn't if the app is working or not.
The issue is how cumbersome it is having to juggle other devices while you game, not to mention the extra battery drain.

"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."



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@Pemaliye, when you use your 5.1 surround sound system, do others complain about reverb?



d21lewis said:
@Pemaliye, when you use your 5.1 surround sound system, do others complain about reverb?

Of course not. I live alone. (All single story houses with a ton of yard space here.)
Next to me is the fire station, you can guess the amount of noise that occurs every time I am called out to an emergency and the sirens go off.
A subwoofer is the least of anyone's concerns. Haha



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Pemalite said:
d21lewis said:
@Pemaliye, when you use your 5.1 surround sound system, do others complain about reverb?

Of course not. I live alone. (All single story houses with a ton of yard space here.)
Next to me is the fire station, you can guess the amount of noise that occurs every time I am called out to an emergency and the sirens go off.
A subwoofer is the least of anyone's concerns. Haha

I meant the people playing you online .I thought it'd be like talking to someone on speaker phone and hearing your own voice. 



d21lewis said:
Pemalite said:

Of course not. I live alone. (All single story houses with a ton of yard space here.)
Next to me is the fire station, you can guess the amount of noise that occurs every time I am called out to an emergency and the sirens go off.
A subwoofer is the least of anyone's concerns. Haha

I meant the people playing you online .I thought it'd be like talking to someone on speaker phone and hearing your own voice. 

Nah, not yet.
Microphones are pretty good at cancelling unnecessary background noises these days though.



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For the price they´re asking..... they could do just three simple things that would make pratically everyone satisfied:

1 - Voice chat on the console. A simple app working on the background would do.
2 - Offer SNES, N64 and GBA games, similar to what they did with the NES games
3 - Offer local back up for cloud save data on the Sd Card.

 

As a side note, I tried the voice chat using the smartphone app and it works ok but it does still feel a little cluncky, in my opinion.