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LMAO@ the NRA being funded by Russians.... People don’t even try anymore. Conspiracies used to be rooted in reality a little bit. 



SpokenTruth said:
massimus said:

LMAO@ the NRA being funded by Russians.... People don’t even try anymore. Conspiracies used to be rooted in reality a little bit. 

You do know that Congress, the FBI and FEC all have active investigations into this that separate from the Mueller probe, don't you?  Did you also know the NRA admitted it received and used Russian sourced donations?


After reading this thread, I am positive that people actually do not read opposing views at all.  Instead what happens is that they form a belief within their minds and from there anything that challenge their belief is instantly dismissed.  Evidence is considered a conspiracy created by one group or the other.  So I would say no, he/she did not know any of what you just said and even if he/she did, it was totally dismissed because an opinion was already formed.

Its like some of the other thread where everything is the Dems losing so Russian hacking into power grids, state election boards and other evidence is also dismissed as no big deal because Trump favors Russia.  Its like people cannot separate the investigation of Trump within these matters from the evidence that Russia actually has had a hand in probing the US in all directions and have taken direct actions against the US.



SpokenTruth said:
massimus said:

LMAO@ the NRA being funded by Russians.... People don’t even try anymore. Conspiracies used to be rooted in reality a little bit. 

You do know that Congress, the FBI and FEC all have active investigations into this that separate from the Mueller probe, don't you?  Did you also know the NRA admitted it received and used Russian sourced donations?


Oh wow, investigations. Spooky. I don’t care lol. Why would Russia donate to the NRA? What is the motive? Do you believe that the NRA is a Russian organization? That’s just ignorant.

 

@Mach

i know the left has had it out for the NRA since that David hog dude started protesting at Publix. I don’t believe a word these people say.



massimus said:

LMAO@ the NRA being funded by Russians.... People don’t even try anymore. Conspiracies used to be rooted in reality a little bit. 

Yet here you are, hypocritically supporting the conspiracy theory that the findings of the US authorities are falsely accusing Trump.

 

"I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!" - Donald Trump, earlier today.

It's bad enough that the US is actually allowing a moron like Trump to run the country. If you actually believe this sort of shit from his twitter feed, you are by definition an idiotic fool.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 24 July 2018

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Jumpin said:
massimus said:

LMAO@ the NRA being funded by Russians.... People don’t even try anymore. Conspiracies used to be rooted in reality a little bit. 

Yet here you are, hypocritically supporting the conspiracy theory that the findings of the US authorities are falsely accusing Trump.

Was Trump convicted of something? Was the NRA charged with something? I didn’t hear anything. “it’s under active investigation, these things take time”. I get it, but I’m not denying any evidence. Do you have any evidence of findings thats not in video form? I can’t watch it so I don’t know what it is. They admitted to taking funds from Russia? Okay when? In what context? Investigations are not evidence and indictments are not convictions.

The conspiracy theory doesn’t even make sense. What would Russia get out of supporting the NRA, a 150 year old gun rights organization? Russians are the reason we support second amendment rights? They have a membership of 5 plus million Americans that pay annual memberships and their lobbying branch spends far less than most lobbies. I’m waiting for the left to tie ICE to Russia somehow. That seems to be their brightest way of trying to destroy something. There’s an investigation, don’t you know? 



Jumpin said:

 

 

"I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!" - Donald Trump, earelier today.

It's bad enough that the US is actually allowing a moron like Trump to run the country. If you actually believe this sort of shit from his twitter feed, you are by definition an idiotic fool.

Lmaoooooooo... He definitely said that to piss the idiots off. He turned the foolish and outlandish shit that is said about him and he flipped it around. “If you believe this sort of shit” what, that the Russians will be leading the Democrats to victory? Yes it’s dumb and foolish lol. Exactly. “I’m very concerned about the upcoming election. Woe is me.They will be pushing very hard for the democrats.” He has been tough on Russia, he’s been tough on everyone lol. He’s laughing at these people and they don’t even realize it. 



massimus said:
Jumpin said:

 

"I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!" - Donald Trump, earelier today.

It's bad enough that the US is actually allowing a moron like Trump to run the country. If you actually believe this sort of shit from his twitter feed, you are by definition an idiotic fool.

Lmaoooooooo... He definitely said that to piss the idiots off. He turned the foolish and outlandish shit that is said about him and he flipped it around. “If you believe this sort of shit” what, that the Russians will be leading the Democrats to victory? Yes it’s dumb and foolish lol. Exactly. “I’m very concerned about the upcoming election. Woe is me.They will be pushing very hard for the democrats.” He has been tough on Russia, he’s been tough on everyone lol. He’s laughing at these people and they don’t even realize it. 

Why would Trump making a fool out of himself piss off Democrats? It's the Republicans who have to try defend him, since none of them have the sack to disown the manchild. And devout followers are being cucked, mostly without knowing it; but you've admitted to being a willing cuckold.

Last edited by Jumpin - on 24 July 2018

I describe myself as a little dose of toxic masculinity.

Jumpin said:
massimus said:

Lmaoooooooo... He definitely said that to piss the idiots off. He turned the foolish and outlandish shit that is said about him and he flipped it around. “If you believe this sort of shit” what, that the Russians will be leading the Democrats to victory? Yes it’s dumb and foolish lol. Exactly. “I’m very concerned about the upcoming election. Woe is me.They will be pushing very hard for the democrats.” He has been tough on Russia, he’s been tough on everyone lol. He’s laughing at these people and they don’t even realize it. 

Why would Trump making a fool out of himself piss off Democrats? It's the Republicans who have to try defend him, since none of them have the sack to disown the manchild. And devout followers are being cucked, mostly without knowing it; but you've admitted to being a willing cuckold.

He has a sense of humor. I have no reason to disown trump, he had a shitty press conference I’m over it lol. Being “cucked” about what exactly lmao? Russian involvement? What a stupid analogy. What’s it called when you think your wife is fucking another dude so you beat the shit out her for it before you have any evidence? Jealousy I guess right? 

Last edited by massimus - on 24 July 2018

Jumpin said:

The US has passed a law protecting political donors from identification by removing the requirement of donors of $5000 or more to no longer have to identify themselves. This comes on the heels of NRA being identified as one of the organizations funded by Russia. The Treasury organization responsible for making this rule has been in contact with a Russian agent named Marina Butina, who has been charged.

More dark money in politics from the Republican party.

This video explains it a lot better than I have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGus-h0b8TQ

Basically, the US government is corrupt beyond comprehension at this point, and by Russian agents of all people...

I don't really wanna get into who's funding NRA. But I feel like you're ignoring the questionable sources dems get their money. Other countries, lobbyists that rely on government funding, etc. This is something the media ignored while Hillary was running with her massive campaign.

Lets not forget Hillary spent about double the money as Trump and still lost. Frankly, left wingers tend to have more money to play with and that won't change.



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Jumpin said:
massimus said:

Lmaoooooooo... He definitely said that to piss the idiots off. He turned the foolish and outlandish shit that is said about him and he flipped it around. “If you believe this sort of shit” what, that the Russians will be leading the Democrats to victory? Yes it’s dumb and foolish lol. Exactly. “I’m very concerned about the upcoming election. Woe is me.They will be pushing very hard for the democrats.” He has been tough on Russia, he’s been tough on everyone lol. He’s laughing at these people and they don’t even realize it. 

Why would Trump making a fool out of himself piss off Democrats? It's the Republicans who have to try defend him, since none of them have the sack to disown the manchild. And devout followers are being cucked, mostly without knowing it; but you've admitted to being a willing cuckold.

For the record, many of support Trump but can still believe he's a buffoon. Why? Because we support some of his policies, while the opposition is becoming an extreme left wing party. If the left has become a party of flawed ideals (and it has), then we have a support a support a flawed candidate like Trump because we share some common ground with him.

On a side note, people like yourself are so incredibly asinine that it actually pushes us towards Trump.



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