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And now it's 50 gazibillion votes against Sabby. -_-

I wonder if he'll go absent again....



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Top of the list, FoS: Dgc1808

Day One he was the first to vote for Hatmoza.  His reasoning was in response to Hatmoza's first post pro-town claim:

Dgc1808 said:

 

Vote: Hatmoza

 

Clearly lying. Clearly.

Then he sat on it for the entire day.  I can somewhat understand this considering the shit-storm Hatmoza caused.  I don't think it is ever a good thing to lose a pro-town player, but in this case it at least removed a distraction from the game.  However, he completely stopped scum hunting.  I see no posts where he found anyone else suspicious on Day One.

Moving to Day Two, he finds me suspicious enough to vote for.  Let's look at the reasoning:

Dgc1808 said:
Vote: theRepublic

1) Not using "FoS" doesn't mean anything if you state who you're suspicious of in your posts and why. This was very weak reasoning and I'm thinking you were using it to throw attention away from members of your mafia family that are currently acquiring some votes or something.

2) It was Day 1 in a large game. Someone saying "there's a good chance there's gonna be alot of night kills night 1" doesn't mean squat. I'd expect something like this from someone new to mafia but not you.

3) My initial reason for vote hatmoza was indeed to get the game going. After a whole day of hatmoza posting reply's like "i'm not crazy, it was just a joke" and stating "we should just lynch a lurker and talk" while really adding nothing to the conversation himself- i saw no reason to change my vote.
1) All I did was try to prod some people into action.  I didn't say I was suspicious of them, or vote for them.  It did seem to help a little bit, but look at the overreaction it drew from Dgc.

2) You'll notice that after Trangentspree responded, I answered a few questions he had and moved on.  He's not completely off the hook, but I'm satisfied for now.  You make it sound like I'm still after him for the same thing.

3) That's fine, however it doesn't give you an excuse to stop scum hunting.  By the way, how is this a reason to vote for me?

If you want to question some of my methods, then fine, but I don't think this is anywhere near good enough to cause a vote.  I think it is an overreaction, and that makes me suspicious.

Who else does he find suspicious today?  SciFiBoy.  Yes, the one person who has been cleared by the cop.

It looks like something else popped up while writing this:

Dgc1808 said:
Unvote

Vote: Sabby


Everybody's doin' it.
Great reasoning.

Further down my list, FoS Zexen_Lowe.

That was a very strong reaction to what was just a summation of Vetteman's Day One activity.  I didn't see any commentary in there, it was fact.  Then under questioning, he seems to give up.  King Fate sums up my thoughts pretty well:

KingFate said:
Zexen that doesn't look very good of you. I mean that's saying "I won't tell unless you let me live" That doesn't seem like you have the towns interests at heart.
That attitude just doesn't sit well with me.

Even further down, FoS ArkZero.

The vote-and-run on Hatmoza bothers me, as does stuff like this:

ArkZero said:
This is getting interesting. Im not sure who I should vote.



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  Voting To Lynch ( Lynched | Murdered | Other | Modkilled )
Person Day 1
Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5 Identity
ArkZero hatmoza
         
Axumblade darthdevidem01
zexen_lowe        
c03n3nj0 hatmoza
sabby_e17
       
Dgc1808 hatmoza
sabby_e17        
dtewi hatmoza  zexen_lowe        
Falcon095 darthdevidem01
sabby_e17
       
KingFate hatmoza
         
lestatdark hatmoza
         
trashleg
- No Vote - 
 zexen_lowe        
sabby_e17 darthdevidem01
zexen_lowe        
SciFiBoy hatmoza
zexen_lowe
       
Son1x SciFiBoy          
SuperAdriank  - No Vote -
 sabby_e17        
theRepublic No Lynch
         
trangentspree No Lynch
 zexen_lowe        
Vetteman94 No Lynch
sabby_e17        
Words of Wisdom  hatmoza sabby_e17        
zexen_lowe hatmoza
sabby_e17        
Seraphic_Sixaxis No Lynch         Mafia Tattaglia Family
darthdevidem01 Falcon095         Vigilante
DaBuddahN hatmoza
        Mafia Roleblocker Corleone Family
dsister44 KingFate
        Jail Keeper
Final-Fan hatmoza
        Townie
nen-suer zexen_lowe
        Mafia Corleone Family
supermario128  sabby_e17         Townie
hatmoza No Lynch
        Townie



Dgc1808 said:
Unvote

Vote: Sabby


Everybody's doin' it.

Bad reason to vote

 

Vetteman94 said:
Falcon095 said:

@Now after explained that I would like to repeat what I said in the beginning of the day about the people overreacting about stuff, first nen, sfb and vetteman (if there's somebody else please remind me) acted way too defensive about WoW and Zex's "leadership", specially vetteman that even changed his vote twice when they just posted what they thought and didn't make anybody to change their votes.

 

SciFiBoy said:
Dgc1808 said:
SciFiBoy said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116764&page=33&postnum=10

Dgc posted this when I was quering zexen about why he voted hatmoza...its not much ill grant you...but I thought that the timing was interesting, it almost seemed like an attempt to "back up" zexen and make me back off.

he also seemed very confident hatmoza was scum and followed zexens thinking that mislynching a townie wasnt a bad thing.

im almost tempted to change my vote to Dgc infact, but if im right in thinking he is working with zexen, then I consider zexen a bigger threat.

@50posts/page

I made this post at the top of page7

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3115169&page=7&postnum=1

multiple post later on the same page, Scifiboy and Zexen were going at it and Scifiboy made this post.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116742&page=7&postnum=29 

"1) townie is a pro town role...has been I think every game?

2) you seem to be saying that you think we should kill hatmoza even if he is a townie?"

You were questioning Zexen as to why we should lynch hatmoza after he role-claimed townie. So, RIGHT UNDER your post I requoted mine just as you see it in that link you provided. 

I felt I gave good reason as to why hatmoza should be lynched even if he was townie, and it seemed like you missed my post since no one replied to it. It wasn't about helping zexen, it was about getting my opinion across.  

you do know you just admitted to the same thing that made me suspicous of zexen right?

I dont accept the logic that mislynching townies isnt bad for the town, it makes no sense to me why a pro-town player would say that, specially not highlight it constantly?


I would like you to explain how you think I was over-reacting?   I dont think me stating that I dont like people trying to control the game is over-reacting?

I cant deny the vote thing,  I did change my vote rather quickly but realized it wasnt anything I wanted to be associated with.  So I changed my vote back to what it was, which was a no lynch.

The thing is nobody was trying to control the game, zex and WoW were stating what they thought with a "strong" tone of voice, that's all, they didn't make anyone vote for somebody, they didn't threat, nothing. You (with the sfb and nen) are making/made a huge deal of something that only 2 players (from 26) did.

Changing your vote to shut them up and the regreting and get back where you started didn't help either.

 

Final-Fan said:
I want to post SO BAD. Even though I don't know anything! I think it's because I'm not used to dying early.
P.S. Hi Falcon.
/zombie

Nobody can deal with sabby like you

 

c03n3nj0 said:
And now it's 50 gazibillion votes against Sabby. -_-

I wonder if he'll go absent again....

If that's the case then, he will just make things easier.

 

EDIT - This is looking pretty good for a double lynch lol

 



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@Falcon

Regarding the 'missing list': It is a way to actually quantify lurkers. It prevents false accusations.

Regarding the 'action list': Doesn't seem too useful yet, but when we get more role confirmations, and more days data, I have a feeling that things are going to start popping out as odd.



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Just to be clear, it is 50% + 1 to lynch right? I think I miscounted earlier, but it looks like 18 players, so 10 votes to lynch.

Sabby is currently at 7.

Zexen is currently at 6.



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@theRepublic

#3 - I was just explaining what I did. Number 1 and 2 were the reasons I voted you.



4 ≈ One

Falcon095 said:
Dgc1808 said:
Unvote

Vote: Sabby


Everybody's doin' it.

Bad reason to vote

I stated my suspicions on Trangent, SciFiBoy and theRepublic. No one seems to care and Sabby seems like a good choice [followed by KingFate]. The reasons to vote for him are written out in quite a few posts already. My statement was just a joke.



4 ≈ One

Falcon095 said:
Vetteman94 said:
Falcon095 said:

@Now after explained that I would like to repeat what I said in the beginning of the day about the people overreacting about stuff, first nen, sfb and vetteman (if there's somebody else please remind me) acted way too defensive about WoW and Zex's "leadership", specially vetteman that even changed his vote twice when they just posted what they thought and didn't make anybody to change their votes.

 

SciFiBoy said:
Dgc1808 said:
SciFiBoy said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116764&page=33&postnum=10

Dgc posted this when I was quering zexen about why he voted hatmoza...its not much ill grant you...but I thought that the timing was interesting, it almost seemed like an attempt to "back up" zexen and make me back off.

he also seemed very confident hatmoza was scum and followed zexens thinking that mislynching a townie wasnt a bad thing.

im almost tempted to change my vote to Dgc infact, but if im right in thinking he is working with zexen, then I consider zexen a bigger threat.

@50posts/page

I made this post at the top of page7

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3115169&page=7&postnum=1

multiple post later on the same page, Scifiboy and Zexen were going at it and Scifiboy made this post.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116742&page=7&postnum=29 

"1) townie is a pro town role...has been I think every game?

2) you seem to be saying that you think we should kill hatmoza even if he is a townie?"

You were questioning Zexen as to why we should lynch hatmoza after he role-claimed townie. So, RIGHT UNDER your post I requoted mine just as you see it in that link you provided. 

I felt I gave good reason as to why hatmoza should be lynched even if he was townie, and it seemed like you missed my post since no one replied to it. It wasn't about helping zexen, it was about getting my opinion across.  

you do know you just admitted to the same thing that made me suspicous of zexen right?

I dont accept the logic that mislynching townies isnt bad for the town, it makes no sense to me why a pro-town player would say that, specially not highlight it constantly?


I would like you to explain how you think I was over-reacting?   I dont think me stating that I dont like people trying to control the game is over-reacting?

I cant deny the vote thing,  I did change my vote rather quickly but realized it wasnt anything I wanted to be associated with.  So I changed my vote back to what it was, which was a no lynch.

The thing is nobody was trying to control the game, zex and WoW were stating what they thought with a "strong" tone of voice, that's all, they didn't make anyone vote for somebody, they didn't threat, nothing. You (with the sfb and nen) are making/made a huge deal of something that only 2 players (from 26) did.

Changing your vote to shut them up and the regreting and get back where you started didn't help either.

 

They were basically saying that anyone who votes no lynch is not contributing to the game.  And that they would be looking scummy if they didnt put effort into finding someone to lynch.   SO they were basically saying vote for someone, or else.............   So yes, in a sense they were trying to control my vote, with a threat.   I suggest you go back and reread the thread if you didnt see that.

 



theRepublic said:

dgc stuff

You're into something, I hadn't noticed all of that. dgc is changing how he's playing rather quickly

zexen stuff

Yep, zex is definitely doing some weird stuff that just keep making things worse for him, this one sounds more like him being annoyed, but still

FoS ArkZero

I'm getting really annoyed by this and the post that just repeat the things that have said, I say that if there isn't a change of this next day we should do something about it

 

 

Dgc1808 said:
Falcon095 said:
Dgc1808 said:
Unvote

Vote: Sabby


Everybody's doin' it.

Bad reason to vote

I stated my suspicions on Trangent, SciFiBoy and theRepublic. No one seems to care and Sabby seems like a good choice [followed by KingFate]. The reasons to vote for him are written out in quite a few posts already. My statement was just a joke.

If you don't mind could you please link those?

 

Vetteman94 said:
Falcon095 said:

The thing is nobody was trying to control the game, zex and WoW were stating what they thought with a "strong" tone of voice, that's all, they didn't make anyone vote for somebody, they didn't threat, nothing. You (with the sfb and nen) are making/made a huge deal of something that only 2 players (from 26) did.

Changing your vote to shut them up and the regreting and get back where you started didn't help either.

 

They were basically saying that anyone who votes no lynch is not contributing to the game.  And that they would be looking scummy if they didnt put effort into finding someone to lynch.   SO they were basically saying vote for someone, or else.............   So yes, in a sense they were trying to control my vote, with a threat.   I suggest you go back and reread the thread if you didnt see that.

 

I saw that, and I still can't understand how you were afraid enough to change your vote, you're talking like if they controled the town and we were gonna do whatever they wanted. When that happened it was 2 players against 4 players from a total of 24, yes they are influential players but still unless you're afraid of gather their attention or you didn't think the no lynch was the best idea, I don't see how could you be so easily manipulated by them.



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