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Scoobes on 31 January 2010
selnor said:
daggy said:
selnor said:
Scoobes said:
selnor said:
daggy said:
FaRmLaNd said:
Microsoft were talking specifically about Germany. Where the pc market is bigger then the console market. That same cannot be said about the rest of the world (bar a few select countries).

Considering the delay between the 360 and pc release of mass effect I very much doubt the sales would be very close.

few select countries? How about the entire Asia (except Japan), Eastern Europe, Scandinavia and Oceania. And let's not PC-centric nations like Portugal, France, Netherlands, etc...

I'm not saying that Mass Effect 1 PC sales would be close to the X360 version, but I'm damn sure that it's not as low as 300k.


Dude get over it. Youve seen the proof. Gears Of War 1 was just as bad. That has sold over 6 million. 360 sales of the game are somewhere over 5 million. Because PC version came out when the 360 version was at 5 million it makes the PC version somewhere between 0-1 million. Remeber though the 360 version will still be on sale. I would put the PC version of Gears around 4-600,000. And 360 about 5.5 - 5.8 million. Again thats using this sites accurate figures. MAybe only Asia and Germany buy the PC versions and EVERYWHERE else buys the console versions?

Why are you bringing up the sales of Gears of War 1 when we're talking about sales of Mass Effect 1 & 2? You can't just compare the breakdown of PC games to 360 games for any PC/360 game for reasons stated below. Factors you SHOULD but haven't taken into consideration:

- Gears came out 1 yr after the 360 version, was poorly ported and still has problems for many PC gamers today that means it's actually unplayable. Mass Effect PC version came out approx. 6 months later and was a relatively good port and was slightly improved over the console version. This would have an effect on sales ratio of PC:360 of these 2 games relative to each other.

- This site doesn't track PC sales figures, so we have no way of knowing how well or poorly the PC version of Mass Effect has sold. Considerring EA are releasing this sequel at the sametime as the 360 version suggests the original's PC version DID sell well enough to warrant a same day release for the sequel (i.e >300K).

- PC sales of any game tend to be much longer and drawn out compared to console sales which are much more front-loaded. Digital distribution platforms really help with this.

- In certain markets in Europe and Asia, PC gaming is MUCH larger than console gaming. This is the main reason MS stopped releasing games on PC and 360. Games like Alan Wake have now gone 360 only so PC gamers have to buy a 360 to play it. Same with Halo 3, Gears 2 and Fable 2 & 3. I would argue that even in console-centric markets PC gaming is still more popular than believed due to digital downloads but we have no way of proving or disproving that.

- Bioware still have a very big PC fanbase that remember the days of Baldurs Gate. The sales of Dragon Age Origins proves this.

- Numerous publishers having seen the success of Steam are now releasing their own digital distribution systems and online profile schemes. It seems odd they would be investing like this unless PC games were at least bringing in some decent revenue.

You would be right except for 1 small thing. Every big PC/360 game or M$ exclusive has sold 80+% of it's sales on 360 over PC. Gears 1, ME1, Fable, Halo the list goes on. The majority of PC gamers out there buy and play MMO's, or strategy games. This whole belief of loads of PS3 owners buying a gaming rig to play certain games is so far out of the order. Sales prove it. You will be lucky to see StarCraft 2 hit 1 million first week sales when it's released let alone ME2 on PC. PC players will have downloaded it illegally or will have no rush ( busy doing instance runs on WOW ). Thats why console exclusives hold so much weight and M$ know it. Dont you think if the PC version sold millions then M$ would realise it's hurting there console? They know the 2 markets dont work together and sales show this.

Give me proof that Gears of War 1, ME1, Fable and Halo sold over 80% on xbox, and less than 20% on PC. I just ask you for proof, because so far no one has shown me anything that concludes your statement.

Dude, Starcraft 1 sold only 1.5 millions in it's first year.... now it should be well above 11 millions sold. PC games sell for ages and ages.

And you contradict yourself. Why do you think that Microsoft stopped selling PC versions of their games?! It's because PC affects console sales.

Dude your posting on a sales site. It's very easy to look for it yourself. I have already posted the link which shows you Mass Effect 1 at 2.13 million lifetime sales. And that when the PC version came out it had already sold 1.8 million. Now this site puts both together. All you have to do is a bit of math.

Gears 1 is another example. When it came out on PC Gears 1 had already sold 5.8 million on 360. It currently sits at around 6.2 I think ( without looking again. Do the math. Fable is the same etc etc. And M$ havent stopped them being released simulataneously. They have just been games which started dev on 360 first. Then ported to PC. For a certain even ME2 was 360 dev first, but I bet we would have had it sooner if it wasnt for EA stalling for both versions to release.

This site doesn't put both together. That 2.13 million figure is for sales of Mass Effect on 360 ONLY. This website doesn't track PC sales (you'll see on the link PC apparent;y has 0.00 sales) because it's so difficult to do so. On PC digital downloads makes up a very large percentage of sales making tracking sales very difficult and even harder to do so by a region by region basis as a lot of the digital download sites don't release figures. Link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Mass+Effect




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Cypher1980 on 31 January 2010

Playing it at the moment. Its not without flaws but they are pretty minor.

But oh my god. The polish people, the polish.

I've been playing for nearly 8 hours and I'm not even close to finishing the opening Disc one based missions. This game is massive.



mrstickball on 31 January 2010
Scoobes said:
selnor said:

Dude your posting on a sales site. It's very easy to look for it yourself. I have already posted the link which shows you Mass Effect 1 at 2.13 million lifetime sales. And that when the PC version came out it had already sold 1.8 million. Now this site puts both together. All you have to do is a bit of math.

Gears 1 is another example. When it came out on PC Gears 1 had already sold 5.8 million on 360. It currently sits at around 6.2 I think ( without looking again. Do the math. Fable is the same etc etc. And M$ havent stopped them being released simulataneously. They have just been games which started dev on 360 first. Then ported to PC. For a certain even ME2 was 360 dev first, but I bet we would have had it sooner if it wasnt for EA stalling for both versions to release.

This site doesn't put both together. That 2.13 million figure is for sales of Mass Effect on 360 ONLY. This website doesn't track PC sales (you'll see on the link PC apparent;y has 0.00 sales) because it's so difficult to do so. On PC digital downloads makes up a very large percentage of sales making tracking sales very difficult and even harder to do so by a region by region basis as a lot of the digital download sites don't release figures. Link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Mass+Effect

Some digital download sales numbers will be available in the near future, FYI.

For some games, the numbers aren't rosy. For others, they aren't too bad.



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iWarMachine on 31 January 2010

guys you DO know that these are sold to retailers WorldWide right?



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Scoobes on 31 January 2010
mrstickball said:
Scoobes said:
selnor said:

Dude your posting on a sales site. It's very easy to look for it yourself. I have already posted the link which shows you Mass Effect 1 at 2.13 million lifetime sales. And that when the PC version came out it had already sold 1.8 million. Now this site puts both together. All you have to do is a bit of math.

Gears 1 is another example. When it came out on PC Gears 1 had already sold 5.8 million on 360. It currently sits at around 6.2 I think ( without looking again. Do the math. Fable is the same etc etc. And M$ havent stopped them being released simulataneously. They have just been games which started dev on 360 first. Then ported to PC. For a certain even ME2 was 360 dev first, but I bet we would have had it sooner if it wasnt for EA stalling for both versions to release.

This site doesn't put both together. That 2.13 million figure is for sales of Mass Effect on 360 ONLY. This website doesn't track PC sales (you'll see on the link PC apparent;y has 0.00 sales) because it's so difficult to do so. On PC digital downloads makes up a very large percentage of sales making tracking sales very difficult and even harder to do so by a region by region basis as a lot of the digital download sites don't release figures. Link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Mass+Effect

Some digital download sales numbers will be available in the near future, FYI.

For some games, the numbers aren't rosy. For others, they aren't too bad.

I hope so, for accurracy sake. But as long as Valve remain an Ltd. I'm not sure we'll ever see Steam numbers.




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Catlana on 31 January 2010
Cypher1980 said:
Playing it at the moment. Its not without flaws but they are pretty minor.

But oh my god. The polish people, the polish.

I've been playing for nearly 8 hours and I'm not even close to finishing the opening Disc one based missions. This game is massive.


The game is pretty good. I do miss alot of the rpg elements that they took out thou.



FaRmLaNd on 31 January 2010

@Catlana

What rpg elements have been removed from the first game?



darthdevidem01 on 31 January 2010

WOW

are people actually arguing that PC sales of ME1 may have been very close to 360's sales?



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STEKSTAV on 31 January 2010

Its shiped copies if that hasn't been clarified just yet. To much "im right"-quotations in this thread for me to read it all.



selnor on 01 February 2010
Scoobes said:
selnor said:
daggy said:
selnor said:
Scoobes said:
selnor said:
daggy said:
FaRmLaNd said:
Microsoft were talking specifically about Germany. Where the pc market is bigger then the console market. That same cannot be said about the rest of the world (bar a few select countries).

Considering the delay between the 360 and pc release of mass effect I very much doubt the sales would be very close.

few select countries? How about the entire Asia (except Japan), Eastern Europe, Scandinavia and Oceania. And let's not PC-centric nations like Portugal, France, Netherlands, etc...

I'm not saying that Mass Effect 1 PC sales would be close to the X360 version, but I'm damn sure that it's not as low as 300k.


Dude get over it. Youve seen the proof. Gears Of War 1 was just as bad. That has sold over 6 million. 360 sales of the game are somewhere over 5 million. Because PC version came out when the 360 version was at 5 million it makes the PC version somewhere between 0-1 million. Remeber though the 360 version will still be on sale. I would put the PC version of Gears around 4-600,000. And 360 about 5.5 - 5.8 million. Again thats using this sites accurate figures. MAybe only Asia and Germany buy the PC versions and EVERYWHERE else buys the console versions?

Why are you bringing up the sales of Gears of War 1 when we're talking about sales of Mass Effect 1 & 2? You can't just compare the breakdown of PC games to 360 games for any PC/360 game for reasons stated below. Factors you SHOULD but haven't taken into consideration:

- Gears came out 1 yr after the 360 version, was poorly ported and still has problems for many PC gamers today that means it's actually unplayable. Mass Effect PC version came out approx. 6 months later and was a relatively good port and was slightly improved over the console version. This would have an effect on sales ratio of PC:360 of these 2 games relative to each other.

- This site doesn't track PC sales figures, so we have no way of knowing how well or poorly the PC version of Mass Effect has sold. Considerring EA are releasing this sequel at the sametime as the 360 version suggests the original's PC version DID sell well enough to warrant a same day release for the sequel (i.e >300K).

- PC sales of any game tend to be much longer and drawn out compared to console sales which are much more front-loaded. Digital distribution platforms really help with this.

- In certain markets in Europe and Asia, PC gaming is MUCH larger than console gaming. This is the main reason MS stopped releasing games on PC and 360. Games like Alan Wake have now gone 360 only so PC gamers have to buy a 360 to play it. Same with Halo 3, Gears 2 and Fable 2 & 3. I would argue that even in console-centric markets PC gaming is still more popular than believed due to digital downloads but we have no way of proving or disproving that.

- Bioware still have a very big PC fanbase that remember the days of Baldurs Gate. The sales of Dragon Age Origins proves this.

- Numerous publishers having seen the success of Steam are now releasing their own digital distribution systems and online profile schemes. It seems odd they would be investing like this unless PC games were at least bringing in some decent revenue.

You would be right except for 1 small thing. Every big PC/360 game or M$ exclusive has sold 80+% of it's sales on 360 over PC. Gears 1, ME1, Fable, Halo the list goes on. The majority of PC gamers out there buy and play MMO's, or strategy games. This whole belief of loads of PS3 owners buying a gaming rig to play certain games is so far out of the order. Sales prove it. You will be lucky to see StarCraft 2 hit 1 million first week sales when it's released let alone ME2 on PC. PC players will have downloaded it illegally or will have no rush ( busy doing instance runs on WOW ). Thats why console exclusives hold so much weight and M$ know it. Dont you think if the PC version sold millions then M$ would realise it's hurting there console? They know the 2 markets dont work together and sales show this.

Give me proof that Gears of War 1, ME1, Fable and Halo sold over 80% on xbox, and less than 20% on PC. I just ask you for proof, because so far no one has shown me anything that concludes your statement.

Dude, Starcraft 1 sold only 1.5 millions in it's first year.... now it should be well above 11 millions sold. PC games sell for ages and ages.

And you contradict yourself. Why do you think that Microsoft stopped selling PC versions of their games?! It's because PC affects console sales.

Dude your posting on a sales site. It's very easy to look for it yourself. I have already posted the link which shows you Mass Effect 1 at 2.13 million lifetime sales. And that when the PC version came out it had already sold 1.8 million. Now this site puts both together. All you have to do is a bit of math.

Gears 1 is another example. When it came out on PC Gears 1 had already sold 5.8 million on 360. It currently sits at around 6.2 I think ( without looking again. Do the math. Fable is the same etc etc. And M$ havent stopped them being released simulataneously. They have just been games which started dev on 360 first. Then ported to PC. For a certain even ME2 was 360 dev first, but I bet we would have had it sooner if it wasnt for EA stalling for both versions to release.

This site doesn't put both together. That 2.13 million figure is for sales of Mass Effect on 360 ONLY. This website doesn't track PC sales (you'll see on the link PC apparent;y has 0.00 sales) because it's so difficult to do so. On PC digital downloads makes up a very large percentage of sales making tracking sales very difficult and even harder to do so by a region by region basis as a lot of the digital download sites don't release figures. Link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=Mass+Effect

Yes they do. Because you can check Biowares overall Mass Effect 1 sales which include PC/360 together. It's pretty inline with 2.13. 

Another thing why it's easy to tell the site puts both together? You can see small spikes in the numbers for Gears 1, Fable and Halo 2. Or are you gonna say it's coincidence that the spikes are on PC's release weeks?