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What if VgChartz starts charging a monthly fee to view sales numbers?

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makingmusic476 on 22 January 2010
loadedstatement said:
makingmusic476 said:
Khuutra said:
makingmusic476 said:
Hm, the premium sub should help convince numerous industry people to sign up to the site, which means they could foreseeably post on the forums.

Should this happen, could we have a way to identify them? Either staff/mods being informed of who they are (and told to let it go public or keep it private depending on the person's wishes), or maybe give them a tag noting the company they're affiliated with. Don't force them into it, but give them the option should they choose to make a name for themselves on the site.

On neogaf the various insiders are given quite a bit of credibility, and I would want to see something similar here, lest every informed statement they make be followed by "and how would you know?"

@bugrimmar: Not even us mods can edit thread titles! Though I wish we could.

I rather like this, though it may be a case of putting the cart before the horse

It definitely is, and we may not even need such a feature for quite some time.  Despite the fact that the industry has grown more and more receptive to our site, interested parties have yet to show their face on our forums yet, except Shams.  I have few ideas of why they may avoid our forums, but I'll get into that elswhere.

Also, I see you're thinking of becoming a contributor yet again.  I think you'd be a much better fit in a certain other staff position, as you know.  ;)

There are some more developers that post here.  They just don't let you know who they are ;)

I can think of a coup of others off the top of my head.  One who is now perma banned and apparently hates my guts.  ='(  But none of them are  big time people 

Look at gaf.  David Jaffe, Geoff Keighly, and Michael Pachter all have accounts under their own name.  We have nothing quite like that here.



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loadedstatement on 22 January 2010
makingmusic476 said:
I'd also like to know how limiting numbers to certain subscriptions will affect the forums. Let's say somebody with a paid account posts the top 200 on the forums for all to see. I assume we'll have to remove such things? Well there be a private forum for paid subscribers to discuss anything pertaining to numbers only they have access to?

Sounds like it'll be a rather decisive move for the community.

ioi has answered that in this thread already. Something along the lines of how the data isn't exactly 'secret' as it is 'convenient'. So if someone is posting pages and pages of data, they will be dealt with, but if a number or two leaks out, it's no big deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong.



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markers on 22 January 2010
makingmusic476 said:
I'd also like to know how limiting numbers to certain subscriptions will affect the forums. Let's say somebody with a paid account posts the top 200 on the forums for all to see. I assume we'll have to remove such things? Well there be a private forum for paid subscribers to discuss anything pertaining to numbers only they have access to?

Sounds like it'll be a rather decisive move for the community.

Maybe once every so often we can post the top 200 for the free users but before that time comes I would assume it would have to be removed, warn the offender that this can not be posted unless authorized or something like that. And a private forum would be ideal for subscribers to chat about that sort of knowledge.


Would private messages be monitored so this info would not be leaked through them? Same with the IM feature?



aragod on 22 January 2010

I know that this might be a little offtopic, but I have serious doubts about some of the bans that people are handing out. There is no discusion, no chance to explain your post, even though the person that banned you might have completly missed the point. Even really, really obvious sarcasm can be missed.

I'm not talking about permabanns obviously, but paying and getting banned for a week, just because someone had a little too hot finger on his ban trigger would piss me to no ends. I also think that there should be a revamp of rights, get some unbiased people to moderate forums. I'm talking in general, this isn't aimed at any specific person.



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makingmusic476 on 22 January 2010
loadedstatement said:
makingmusic476 said:
I'd also like to know how limiting numbers to certain subscriptions will affect the forums. Let's say somebody with a paid account posts the top 200 on the forums for all to see. I assume we'll have to remove such things? Well there be a private forum for paid subscribers to discuss anything pertaining to numbers only they have access to?

Sounds like it'll be a rather decisive move for the community.

ioi has answered that in this thread already. Something along the lines of how the data isn't exactly 'secret' as it is 'convenient'. So if someone is posting pages and pages of data, they will be dealt with, but if a number or two leaks out, it's no big deal.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I see.  I like this.  It won't make people feel like they *have* to have a paid subscription.

Though I wish I could get one of those premium subcriptions.  I'm a total numbers whore, and know I'd be using the extra features constantly.  xD



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makingmusic476 on 22 January 2010
aragod said:
I know that this might be a little offtopic, but I have serious doubts about some of the bans that people are handing out. There is no discusion, no chance to explain your post, even though the person that banned you might have completly missed the point. Even really, really obvious sarcasm can be missed.

I'm not talking about permabanns obviously, but paying and getting banned for a week, just because someone had a little too hot finger on his ban trigger would piss me to no ends. I also think that there should be a revamp of rights, get some unbiased people to moderate forums. I'm talking in general, this isn't aimed at any specific person.

I suppose they could make it like GameSpot.  On GameSpot, you're only banned from the forums.  You can still log in (even when permabanned) and access the other features of the site.  You just cann't post or comment on anything.



nightsurge on 22 January 2010

What's to stop one person with say an Industry Pass from just distributing the numbers an hour later after he gets them from VGC? Seems like this type of model if it is based solely around sales figures and data just wouldn't work.



markers on 22 January 2010
makingmusic476 said:
aragod said:
I know that this might be a little offtopic, but I have serious doubts about some of the bans that people are handing out. There is no discusion, no chance to explain your post, even though the person that banned you might have completly missed the point. Even really, really obvious sarcasm can be missed.

I'm not talking about permabanns obviously, but paying and getting banned for a week, just because someone had a little too hot finger on his ban trigger would piss me to no ends. I also think that there should be a revamp of rights, get some unbiased people to moderate forums. I'm talking in general, this isn't aimed at any specific person.

I suppose they could make it like GameSpot.  On GameSpot, you're only banned from the forums.  You can still log in (even when permabanned) and access the other features of the site.  You just cann't post or comment on anything.

Or leave it how it is, but sucribers get a chance to explain themselves to the moderator that has issued the ban and a third party moderator to be a type of judge.



markers on 22 January 2010
nightsurge said:
What's to stop one person with say an Industry Pass from just distributing the numbers an hour later after he gets them from VGC? Seems like this type of model if it is based solely around sales figures and data just wouldn't work.

Code of honor >.>



Khuutra on 22 January 2010
nightsurge said:
What's to stop one person with say an Industry Pass from just distributing the numbers an hour later after he gets them from VGC? Seems like this type of model if it is based solely around sales figures and data just wouldn't work.

ioi could just revoke the living Hell out of their membership if such a thing happened