the thing is they consider FF cliche, and the space marine story of saaving the universe used in most in not all modern FPS and WRPG not.

I think it's a bit more of an issue of perception. Remember that before these gen, FPS and WRPG's were restricted mostly to the PC universe, most console players didn't knew that both these genres could explode like that, so the current perception for those is that they are innovative, even though they are repeating patterns that have been a staplehold for their respective genres since the early 90's.

With JRPG's the opposite thing his happening. There has always been a market saturation of JRPG's in each generation, starting from the 4th gen, or the SNES gen. So by now, the current perception is that JRPG's tend to repeat themselves, even when they are just following certain stapleholds that are particular to their own genre, much like any game from any genre is doing.

Give another generation, the same market saturation that JRPG's are suffering (even though there's a huge JRPG drought on consoles, the shift was done tremendously to the Handheld market) will fall upon both those genres, and people will start to find much cliches in the Space Marine FPS and Fantasy WRPG.  

FF XIII

Versus will definitely be the better game for a few pre detailed facts.

1. It is Tetsuya Nomura behind it. One of SE's biggest celebs behind Sakaguchi. Once he left, Nomura was the only star worth talking about. He has never made a bad game(in my Opinion). He was the character designer and helped with the story behind FFVII. Did FFVIII and X. He was the director of Advent Children. He did PSP's Crisis Core which is the PSP's greatest RPG besides Crimson Gem Saga. Don't forget he is in charge of the Kingdom Hearts series which is the ONLY series other then FF and SO that are worth a damn from SE.

2. Kingdom Hearts battle system with the idea of making battles more cinamatic Advent Children style= EPIC WIN!!!

3. Exclusive game so it can use full specs of the hardware and bluray.

4.Darker Story, which are ALWAYS better then the bubbly happy ones. I want emo sadness, those are the type of emotions that drive me in a good story.

5. Shakespearean Influence. The man's work has been immortalized through out history. Thats got to be a good direction to go.

I agree on all your points! :D

thx lol :)

I feel Versus might be the game to finally bump FFVII from the number one spot in my heart.

I don't get how people can say what characters they like/dislike based off a few random cutscenes that are unclear as to what's going on.

i concur with forevercloud3000

As a hardcore FFVII fan and a fan of that "Style" of FF game, Im very excited for Versus and its Dark story. Noctis and Stella are the new Cloud and Tifa :)