bmmb1 said: dany612 said: Well Nintendo is being lazy. I think it's starting to become more of a greedy company and trust me sometimes I wonder if they learn from there mistakes. And why did they name the console "Wii" when it doesnt even cover the whole we part. There are more concentrated with core and casual. What about the hardcore? That is part of the Wii they are yet to do anything about. Sure Metroid but what else? Errr... you're missing the point of this thread, you should read more than the title before you post - this is not a "Wii fandom is bitter with the Wii" thread, it's a "Wii fandom is bitter with 3rd parties" thread.

I know:) I just needed to get it out of my chest. It had fanboyism in it so I just posted whatever, and yes I am a fanboy of Nintendo. And I am tired of lazy developers who use the wii only to gather money for their bigger franchises who are all going to be made for the HD twins.

Avinash_Tyagi said: Its just people waking up to the signs of a broken and dying industry, just happens that the Wii owners are the most aware of these events

You do mean the vocal minority of Wii owners that post on this site right ?

There is a no sign at large that the majority of Wii owners have any complain with the software available on their platform( or Wii woudn't have done so well these holydays).

 

The Wii fandom may be bitter, but the large majority of Wii owners aren't.....

I think it's a little more resignation, the thirds aren't coming to the party in the numbers the Wii deserves and Wii fans will just have to get used to that idea for at least the remainder of this generation. Despite all the excuses thrown around I'm not bitter about it, just a little perplexed.

The Wii's got a great software line-up this year so I'm not too worried.

Stop thinking about that stuff dude. I wonder many things about the Wii fandom too, but I know I'll never get a comprehensible answer for most of them.

Alterego-X said: I have a strange feeling.  Maybe it is just me whose perceptions changed, but I could swear, that nowadays the whole Nintendo community, and not just on this site, is a lot more supportive to Nintendo and hostile to 3rd parties than ever before, for example, a year ago.   In the past, there was cheerful optimism about all upcoming core third party games, and some blaming of Nintendo for not helping to get even more third party games.  Nowadays, everyone starts to sound like Malstrom: "The Industry Must Die!", "None of them could make any good enough games!",  "Everything on-rails sucks!" Even on generic core news sites, like Eurogamer, a comment pointing out how retarded Ubisoft is, and their best franchises should have Wii versions, can get voted up.  Is it just me, or there is something in the winds?

I'm bitter at third parties because they never make good games for the system.  I mean, its pretty sad when the best third party games for the system are stuff like Muramasa, Little King's Story and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles.  All these games would be considered secondary titles to the games coming out on the HD consoles, but we have to hold them up as the best we have on the Wii.  Not that I'm calling them horrible (I love Muramasa), but really....

Then these same companies, who are making millions off of party and casual games, turn around and complain their games aren't selling well on the Wii.  Its like a kid who goes into a candy store and steals a handful of jolly ranchers, then as he's leaving he turns around and screams to the owner 'I wanted more!'

Let me tell youa story of two delis, located across the street from each other. The Wii Deli specializes in club sandwiches, and the HD Deli makes great big deluxe submarine sandwiches.

Threepee, a sandwich maker working at HD Deli, is having a hard time making ends meet. He makes a mean submarine sandwich, but there just aren't always enough people hungry for a submarine sandwich to pay the bills.

Threepee looks across the street, and sees people lined up to get into Wii Deli. Seeing dollar signs, Threepee walks across the street and asks the proprietor if he could use another sandwich maker. The propietor agrees, noting that he's having trouble meeting demand and customers like variety.

So Threepee starts selling sandwiches, only he can't afford to buy all the ingredients that he puts into his submarine sandwiches. That should be okay, because if these people wanted a submarine sandwich, they'd be across the street anyway. He doesn't want to compete with the propietor's club sandwiches, because he thinks people will just turn up their nose and buy from him. So Threepee makes cheese sandwiches: Just a couple pieces of Wonderbread with a slice of processed cheese in the middle.

At first, things go well. Customers are tired of waiting in line for club sandwiches, so they try a cheese sandwich for a little variety. Threepee thinks this is great, and starts making more and more cheese sandwiches.

But the customers aren't enthused. Where's the tomato? The turkey? It's a little unsatisfying. So they go back to waiting in line for club sandwiches.

Threepee's response to this development is anger. He's spent a lot of money on Wonderbread and processed cheese. Rather than trying to make club sandwiches, or coming up with a sandwich that's different, but just as satisfying, Threepee angrily blames the customers of the Wii Deli for not buying his sandwiches. He tells them that he thinks they're ignorant people who don't even like sandwiches and storms out of the deli.

Now tell me, do the customers of the Wii Deli have any reason to find Threepee annoying?

Ail said: Avinash_Tyagi said: Its just people waking up to the signs of a broken and dying industry, just happens that the Wii owners are the most aware of these events You do mean the vocal minority of Wii owners that post on this site right ? There is a no sign at large that the majority of Wii owners have any complain with the software available on their platform( or Wii woudn't have done so well these holydays).   The Wii fandom may be bitter, but the large majority of Wii owners aren't.....

They aren't bitter at Nintendo, which is why Nintendo stuff sells great, but at the industry

Ail said: Avinash_Tyagi said: Its just people waking up to the signs of a broken and dying industry, just happens that the Wii owners are the most aware of these events You do mean the vocal minority of Wii owners that post on this site right ? There is a no sign at large that the majority of Wii owners have any complain with the software available on their platform( or Wii woudn't have done so well these holydays).   The Wii fandom may be bitter, but the large majority of Wii owners aren't.....

I wonder if that large majority even knows what a third-party game is....

Since NSMBwii things started to gonne bad for nintendo

hsrob said: I think it's a little more resignation, the thirds aren't coming to the party in the numbers the Wii deserves and Wii fans will just have to get used to that idea for at least the remainder of this generation. Despite all the excuses thrown around I'm not bitter about it, just a little perplexed. The Wii's got a great software line-up this year so I'm not too worried.

Minor third party support on Nintendo consoles has been a given since the N64, Nintendo consoles have mainly been about first party games with some third party support since then but that's not what people are bitter about tbh it's the notion that third parties complain like they've done Wii owners many favours when really they're throwing scraps their way. The best third party games have been niche games which won't set the world alight although they've sold well on the Wii, these games how ever would get massively overlooked on the HD twins despite their critical achievement. It's hard for Wii owners to take them serious when you see things like MW1 being ported two years late and released along side its sequel while activision gives Wii owners an ultimatum of buy it or no more core games or Ubisoft making loads of imagine games or even Sega complain about needing help in selling mature titles when the are hardly any ads shown for their games.