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The OP is a total fanboy... who cares if tekken saw a 360 release. If you like the game you'll play it, even if it is on the 360. To dislike a game just because its on a competing platform is juvenile. Hell I want every game released to be multiplat.. even Mario!



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Slimebeast said:
Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
KBG29 said:
I agree with the OP. Third party games this gen are terrible. SCEWWS have set there games so far ahead of the competition that it makes third party games look like a joke. Since third parties are not interested in even competing with Sony, or Microsoft for that matter, I see no reason to purchase there games.

However, I will be getting Splinter Cell Conviction, Final Fantasy XIII Vs, and Agent. Those games are being made correctly, and actually being built for the console.

To me multiplatform games are like putting on shoes 2 sizes to small, and on the wrong feet.

You gotta be kidding...

Fallout 3
Assassin's Creed I & II
Oblivion
Call of Duty 4 & 5 & 6
Bioshock
Dragon Age
GTA4
Resident Evil 5
Batman: AA

etc...

i don think h means sales, but the amount of polish sony games have this gen it's impressive.

graphics wise especially, and also not tons of bugs

I didn't mean sales either. I'm talking quality.

then neither look as good as sony games sorry, RE5 and AC 2 at most, but then this year games are leaps forward.



jneul said:
Burning Typhoon said:

Should it still matter to developers that the PS3 is still in 3rd place?  When you look at the numbers, they are so close -- 6 million behind?  That's nothing.  When it gets that close, you have to consider how many systems you're going to be able to attach your games to, not "Oh, 360 is higher, so lets slap our JRPG into the mix, and cut out content to make them equal!

What since does it make to hurt your reputation, and quality of the final product for sales you probably would have made anyway?  Look at it like this:  If Final Fantasy had been released exclusivly to PS3, and had all the content that was originally intended, it would have probably made more PS3 sales, the extra PS3 sales being more-so than what the 360 version will make...  1st week means everything.  If you can get 2.5 million sales in your first week, that puts you so much closer to 3 million, you've got people talking about your product, and you can exand from there. 

But, when you release on two consoles, and you game is noticingly lacking... like Tekken 6 which was clear of suckage, you hurt your reputation, and will probably hurt future sales of the series..  I know I would never stand in line on release day to get a Tekken game ever again.  Was it really worth putting the game on both systems, when they could have already made the .63 million that the 360 has, and the 1.76 million that the PS3 has, plus more had it been released on time as an exclusive?  I think developers should sit back, and consider their possible attach rates...  Sure, there may be 200 million 360's out there, and 18 million PS3s, but, if you're only going to be able to snag 2 million 360s, is it worth going multi-plat, and hurting the game's image when you possibly could have gotten 10 million PS3s vs. 6 million that you got after the multi-plat?

Because now, you've hurt the image of the series, and people will be less likely to jump onto the sequel.  Look at Modern Warfare 2...  Everyone loved CoD4, that's what triggered the sales..  Think it could have done that if CoD4 was rushed and lacking, regaurdless if it wouldn't have changed what MW2 would become?

And, because of MW2's image, I bet the next wont reach such high numbers.

is this some kind of joke thread??

please don't post threads like this it will only start wars, trust me. you do know the real figures for hardware sales, hint look at the charts

I agree with jneul. *marks calendar*



Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
KBG29 said:
I agree with the OP. Third party games this gen are terrible. SCEWWS have set there games so far ahead of the competition that it makes third party games look like a joke. Since third parties are not interested in even competing with Sony, or Microsoft for that matter, I see no reason to purchase there games.

However, I will be getting Splinter Cell Conviction, Final Fantasy XIII Vs, and Agent. Those games are being made correctly, and actually being built for the console.

To me multiplatform games are like putting on shoes 2 sizes to small, and on the wrong feet.

You gotta be kidding...

Fallout 3
Assassin's Creed I & II
Oblivion
Call of Duty 4 & 5 & 6
Bioshock
Dragon Age
GTA4
Resident Evil 5
Batman: AA

etc...

i don think h means sales, but the amount of polish sony games have this gen it's impressive.

graphics wise especially, and also not tons of bugs

I didn't mean sales either. I'm talking quality.

then neither look as good as sony games sorry, RE5 and AC 2 at most, but then this year games are leaps forward.

Typical Xoj. Batman:AA and Resident Evil 5 are so close to looking as good as the top Sony games that it's a negligable difference, and no game has done what Oblivion has done with draw distance and sheer size of the world and STILL looked as crisp as it did. Sony =/= BETTA THAN EVERYONE ELSE!



Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
KBG29 said:
I agree with the OP. Third party games this gen are terrible. SCEWWS have set there games so far ahead of the competition that it makes third party games look like a joke. Since third parties are not interested in even competing with Sony, or Microsoft for that matter, I see no reason to purchase there games.

However, I will be getting Splinter Cell Conviction, Final Fantasy XIII Vs, and Agent. Those games are being made correctly, and actually being built for the console.

To me multiplatform games are like putting on shoes 2 sizes to small, and on the wrong feet.

You gotta be kidding...

Fallout 3
Assassin's Creed I & II
Oblivion
Call of Duty 4 & 5 & 6
Bioshock
Dragon Age
GTA4
Resident Evil 5
Batman: AA

etc...

i don think h means sales, but the amount of polish sony games have this gen it's impressive.

graphics wise especially, and also not tons of bugs

I didn't mean sales either. I'm talking quality.

then neither look as good as sony games sorry, RE5 and AC 2 at most, but then this year games are leaps forward.

Seriously, do you actually agree with him? That Sony "makes third party games look like a joke".

That KillZone2 is so incredible that it makes Modern Warfare look like a joke?

Uncharted 2 is so incredible that it makes Assassin's Creed II look like a joke?

Demon's Souls is so incredible that it makes Oblivion look like a joke?

Valkyria Chronicles is so incredible that it makes Dragon Age look like a joke?

MGS4 is so incredible that it makes Resi 5 look like a joke?

Infamous is so incredible that it makes GTA4 look like a joke?



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Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
Burning Typhoon said:

 

jneul said:

is this some kind of joke thread??

please don't post threads like this it will only start wars, trust me. you do know the real figures for hardware sales, hint look at the charts

How is it a joke thread to ask the reason behind gimping games, and releasing late for no actual gain?  Just damage to the series.

 

First of all the quality of FF13 wasn't hurt by the X360. At least not in any significant way. In another thread here on VGC it was shown how the size of the core game is only 6.8 GB, the rest is only movies.

Second of all you are wrong about multiplatforms versus exclusives sales. It always makes financial sense to be multiplatform unless Sony or MS money-hats you as a publisher.

but 50% of it was slashed, enough to asume another 6.8 more of gaming

Who said this? Give me your source? (not the sub heading on VGC's article which was unfounded & had no proof)

FF13 is 50 - 60 hours long (main quest)

so it was originally 100 - 120 hours long? basically making its main quest longer than any FF to date?

in fact if merely 9% - 10 % of FF13 was slashed, it would be enough to make another game

FF's previously have had lots of content removed too, that was on SNES (FF6), PS1 & PS2 (FFX)

We can't blame xbox 360



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Slimebeast said:
Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
Xoj said:
Slimebeast said:
KBG29 said:
I agree with the OP. Third party games this gen are terrible. SCEWWS have set there games so far ahead of the competition that it makes third party games look like a joke. Since third parties are not interested in even competing with Sony, or Microsoft for that matter, I see no reason to purchase there games.

However, I will be getting Splinter Cell Conviction, Final Fantasy XIII Vs, and Agent. Those games are being made correctly, and actually being built for the console.

To me multiplatform games are like putting on shoes 2 sizes to small, and on the wrong feet.

You gotta be kidding...

Fallout 3
Assassin's Creed I & II
Oblivion
Call of Duty 4 & 5 & 6
Bioshock
Dragon Age
GTA4
Resident Evil 5
Batman: AA

etc...

i don think h means sales, but the amount of polish sony games have this gen it's impressive.

graphics wise especially, and also not tons of bugs

I didn't mean sales either. I'm talking quality.

then neither look as good as sony games sorry, RE5 and AC 2 at most, but then this year games are leaps forward.

Seriously, do you actually agree with him? That Sony "makes third party games look like a joke".

That KillZone2 is so incredible that it makes Modern Warfare look like a joke?

Uncharted 2 is so incredible that it makes Assassin's Creed II look like a joke?

Demon's Souls is so incredible that it makes Oblivion look like a joke?

Valkyria Chronicles is so incredible that it makes Dragon Age look like a joke?

MGS4 is so incredible that it makes Resi 5 look like a joke?

Infamous is so incredible that it makes GTA4 look like a joke?

i never said they were bad, certainly sony first party games are better. especially in graphics and overall polish.



BTW, I think a few of the highly praised Sony exclusives are in fact made by third party devs (MGS4, Demons Souls, LPB?). Not that that was OP's point, his point was to blame multiplatforms rather than third party games specifically.



I think it is a good thing that some games have gone multiplatform, just think if it was not for that fact we may not have seen TOV, SO4, Oblivion etc.



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Slimebeast said:

Seriously, do you actually agree with him? That Sony "makes third party games look like a joke".

That KillZone2 is so incredible that it makes Modern Warfare look like a joke?

Uncharted 2 is so incredible that it makes Assassin's Creed II look like a joke?

Demon's Souls is so incredible that it makes Oblivion look like a joke?

Valkyria Chronicles is so incredible that it makes Dragon Age look like a joke?

MGS4 is so incredible that it makes Resi 5 look like a joke?

Infamous is so incredible that it makes GTA4 look like a joke?

yes MGS4 is that incredible!

the rest no comment



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