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darthdevidem01 on 15 January 2010
radiantshadow92 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
This is why I only go to IGN for reviews, nothing else

their review staff is excellent, I trust them there

but everything else they do is just........bad

the guy who wrote this does review games =p....i think hes alright, i mean this article really isnt bad, its not perfect, but i wouldnt say its bad

oh well

their reviews have never let me down though, except for the GTA4 one



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Rath on 15 January 2010
Torillian said:
O-D-C said:
somwhere along the line, this guy forgot what gaming is all about

fun

if you can have playing a game then it's done its job

That's fine when you're talking about whether or not to buy a game, but both NSMBWii and Splosion Man were fun, so obviously you have to base GotY off more than "which game is fun"

 

I do disagree with him on his points other than originality.  From what I've heard Splosion Man's online coop is a nightmare of lag, and comparing 100 levels to 77 does not take into account the length of the levels whatsoever.

Fun isn't a switch. A fun game can be more fun than another fun game.



radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2010
Khuutra said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Khuutra said:
I don't like watching people have breakdowns, so this is actually kind of hard to read.

Somebody having such a negative reaction to a game selling well - to people having fun with it, and their friends buying it as a result - is distressing in and of itself. I winced, reading this.

And the whole "NSMBWii plays just like the DS game" memetic needs to die

werd i played both, and they are different.

but....he having a breakdown because he is trying to get people to see his point, but no one will listen (since it got platformer of the year and all)...i agree with him to some extent though

What exactly do you agree with him on? That New Super Mario Bros. Wii isn't as awesome as sales suggest? That, in fact, it's mediocre? That's the word he assigned to it: "mediocrity".

I couldn't disagree with him more if he were trying to tell me God Hand sucks (ha-HA, IGN...), but that isn't really the point. The man is having a breakdown. In public. He's letting everyone see him tattoo his heart onto his bicep, with all the pettiness and ugliness made plain to the world. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm ashamed for him.

well he is a writer, so he is supposed to write about things pertaining to his opinion and receive hits for the site, so yeah i mean its his job, right now your showing your colors by being ashamed of him because he wants to express his opinion as a writer

 

and i agree with him on the fact that mario galaxy is top notch stuff nintendo should be doing, not bringing a game that has no online co-op or any more than 4 characters, they should be bringing us some online,  and more characters, maybe a little comical story or something (just examples)....all these things are possible on the wii but the developers played it safe (some call it laziness) with this game forsure. you cannot seriously say that they worked 100 percent on this, and i will go as far as to say that they do not deserve the sales, surely its a great game, but to cash in such an ammount of money for little effort is what annoys me, and it annoys me even more that people dont see that.



bmmb1 on 15 January 2010
radiantshadow92 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
This is why I only go to IGN for reviews, nothing else

their review staff is excellent, I trust them there

but everything else they do is just........bad

the guy who wrote this does review games =p....i think hes alright, i mean this article really isnt bad, its not perfect, but i wouldnt say its bad

errr... Are you talking about Daemon Hatfield from IGN? He has been a certified anti-Wii person for a long, long time (maybe always?). I have stopped reading anything he had to say already a year ago...



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Nintendogamer on 15 January 2010

I'm suprised that these IGN staff are even bothered to write up such nonsense of a article. I hope that NSMBWii will continue to sell well, it deserves it. People love the game and it has brought many nostalgic moments back, those are the most important aspect of this game.



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Kasz216 on 15 January 2010
radiantshadow92 said:
Khuutra said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Khuutra said:
I don't like watching people have breakdowns, so this is actually kind of hard to read.

Somebody having such a negative reaction to a game selling well - to people having fun with it, and their friends buying it as a result - is distressing in and of itself. I winced, reading this.

And the whole "NSMBWii plays just like the DS game" memetic needs to die

werd i played both, and they are different.

but....he having a breakdown because he is trying to get people to see his point, but no one will listen (since it got platformer of the year and all)...i agree with him to some extent though

What exactly do you agree with him on? That New Super Mario Bros. Wii isn't as awesome as sales suggest? That, in fact, it's mediocre? That's the word he assigned to it: "mediocrity".

I couldn't disagree with him more if he were trying to tell me God Hand sucks (ha-HA, IGN...), but that isn't really the point. The man is having a breakdown. In public. He's letting everyone see him tattoo his heart onto his bicep, with all the pettiness and ugliness made plain to the world. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm ashamed for him.

well he is a writer, so he is supposed to write about things pertaining to his opinion and receive hits for the site, so yeah i mean its his job, right now your showing your colors by being ashamed of him because he wants to express his opinion as a writer

 

and i agree with him on the fact that mario galaxy is top notch stuff nintendo should be doing, not bringing a game that has no online co-op or any more than 4 characters, they should be bringing us some online,  and more characters, maybe a little comical story or something (just examples)....all these things are possible on the wii but the developers played it safe (some call it laziness) with this game forsure. you cannot seriously say that they worked 100 percent on this, and i will go as far as to say that they do not deserve the sales, surely its a great game, but to cash in such an ammount of money for little effort is what annoys me, and it annoys me even more that people dont see that.

Proffesional writers express things... well proffesionally....

the article doesn't quite come off as proffesional... it comes off as well... embarrising.

It reminds me of when one of my friends would drunkenly complain that his band wasn't getting a chance when people with less talent got all the credit and hype.



Torillian on 15 January 2010
Rath said:
Torillian said:
O-D-C said:
somwhere along the line, this guy forgot what gaming is all about

fun

if you can have playing a game then it's done its job

That's fine when you're talking about whether or not to buy a game, but both NSMBWii and Splosion Man were fun, so obviously you have to base GotY off more than "which game is fun"

 

I do disagree with him on his points other than originality.  From what I've heard Splosion Man's online coop is a nightmare of lag, and comparing 100 levels to 77 does not take into account the length of the levels whatsoever.

Fun isn't a switch. A fun game can be more fun than another fun game.

Fun isn't a quantifiable property in and of itself.  What's fun for you might not be fun for me.  I enjoy Games with stories and others abhor it.  Some care about graphics for their fun and others don't.  The reason fun doesn't show up in components is because reviewers try to get at all the things that can make a game fun for longer.



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Ari_Gold on 15 January 2010

I agree that splosion man is the better platformer game, and that new mario bros is overpriced.



radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2010
bmmb1 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
This is why I only go to IGN for reviews, nothing else

their review staff is excellent, I trust them there

but everything else they do is just........bad

the guy who wrote this does review games =p....i think hes alright, i mean this article really isnt bad, its not perfect, but i wouldnt say its bad

errr... Are you talking about Daemon Hatfield from IGN? He has been a certified anti-Wii person for a long, long time (maybe always?). I have stopped reading anything he had to say already a year ago...

everyone who isnt on the nintendo team is anti wii, i listen to all the podcasts and they always have something to say about how motion controls are not good, and that the wii is weak, and how the wii is sad for not having dvd capabilities, its not him only, but i dont blame them honeslty, i feel the same way about the wii, the system is not for me and apperently for many of the ign reviewers, whether he hates the wii or not though, he makes points that galaxy and other games on the wii are good, hes doesnt bring up the system or his hate towards it, but more the game...i find his article to be good overall



Rath on 15 January 2010
Torillian said:
Rath said:
Torillian said:
O-D-C said:
somwhere along the line, this guy forgot what gaming is all about

fun

if you can have playing a game then it's done its job

That's fine when you're talking about whether or not to buy a game, but both NSMBWii and Splosion Man were fun, so obviously you have to base GotY off more than "which game is fun"

 

I do disagree with him on his points other than originality.  From what I've heard Splosion Man's online coop is a nightmare of lag, and comparing 100 levels to 77 does not take into account the length of the levels whatsoever.

Fun isn't a switch. A fun game can be more fun than another fun game.

Fun isn't a quantifiable property in and of itself.  What's fun for you might not be fun for me.  I enjoy Games with stories and others abhor it.  Some care about graphics for their fun and others don't.  The reason fun doesn't show up in components is because reviewers try to get at all the things that can make a game fun for longer.

I'm just saying that the game you should rank highest should be the game you enjoyed most for the longest, no matter what the objective analysis says. Things like story, graphics etc are only there to make it more fun, fun is the aim.