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DnE said:

Replies cam faster than I had hoped ;)

For referance sakes I thought let's compile what they did 2009 for the wii ;)

Great OP I think, and time to properly take a look at third party support for the Wii

Activision (35)    
Guitar Hero: Van Halen 0.07m 22nd Dec 09
LEGO Indiana Jones 2: The Adventure Continues 0.49m 20th Nov 09
Chaotic: Shadow Warriors 0.03m 17th Nov 09
Hot Wheels: Battle Force 5 0.03m 17th Nov 09
Tony Hawk: Ride 0.50m 17th Nov 09
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare: Reflex Edition 0.67m 10th Nov 09
Band Hero 0.59m 03rd Nov 09
Barbie and the Three Musketeers 0.09m 03rd Nov 09
Jurassic: The Hunted 0.05m 03rd Nov 09
DJ Hero 0.44m 27th Oct 09
iCarly 0.12m 27th Oct 09
Dreamworks Madagascar Kartz 0.08m 27th Oct 09
Mountain Sports 0.03m 27th Oct 09
Bakugan: Battle Brawlers 0.19m 20th Oct 09
Cabela's Big Game Hunter 2010 0.72m 29th Sep 09
Animal Planet: Vet Life 0.05m 22nd Sep 09
Rapala: We Fish 0.11m 22nd Sep 09
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 0.18m 15th Sep 09
Arcade Zone 0.03m 08th Sep 09
Cabela's Outdoor Adventures (2009) 0.17m 08th Sep 09
Cruise Ship Vacation Games 0.04m 08th Sep 09
Guitar Hero 5 0.91m 01st Sep 09
Science Papa 0.05m 14th Jul 09
Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs 0.13m 30th Jun 09
Little League World Series Baseball 2009 0.10m 23rd Jun 09
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 0.30m 23rd Jun 09
Big League Sports: Summer 0.05m 16th Jun 09
Guitar Hero: Smash Hits 0.32m 16th Jun 09
Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings 0.28m 12th Jun 09
Space Camp 0.06m 26th May 09
X-Men Origins: Wolverine 0.15m 01st May 09
Guitar Hero: Metallica 0.62m 29th Mar 09
Monsters vs. Aliens 0.15m 24th Mar 09
Hidden Mysteries: Titanic - Secrets of the Fateful Voyage 0.04m 03rd Nov 09
     
EA (23)    
Need for Speed: Nitro 0.21m 02nd Nov 09
Hasbro Family Game Night 2 0.59m 27th Oct 09
SimAnimals Africa 0.04m 27th Oct 09
NERF: N-Strike Elite 0.38m 26th Oct 09
Charm Girls Club: Pajama Party 0.06m 20th Oct 09
Littlest Pet Shop: Friends 0.13m 20th Oct 09
Spore Hero 0.18m 06th Oct 09
Dead Space Extraction 0.19m 28th Sep 09
MySims Agents 0.60m 25th Sep 09
G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra 0.12m 07th Aug 09
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince 0.49m 30th Jun 09
MySims Racing 0.38m 08th Jun 09
Boom Blox Bash Party 0.21m 19th May 09
MySims Party 0.11m 10th Mar 09
Trivial Pursuit 0.34m 10th Mar 09
SimAnimals 0.21m 21st Jan 09
EA Sports Active: More Workouts 0.22m 17th Nov 09
FIFA Soccer 10 0.60m 20th Oct 09
Madden NFL 10 0.57m 14th Aug 09
EA Sports Grand Slam Tennis 0.53m 08th Jun 09
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10 0.73m 08th Jun 09
EA Sports Active 2.58m 19th May 09
NASCAR Kart Racing  0.34m 10th Feb 09
     
Namco (13)    
Family Trainer: Double Challenge 0.00m 10th Dec 09
Tales of Graces 0.21m 10th Dec 09
Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes W 0.08m 03rd Dec 09
Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Dodon to 2 Yome! 0.27m 19th Nov 09
Food Network: Cook or Be Cooked 0.21m 03rd Nov 09
We Cheer 2 0.13m 03rd Nov 09
Super Robot Taisen Neo 0.05m 29th Oct 09
Active Life: Extreme Challenge 0.21m 11th Aug 09
Dragon Ball: Revenge of King Piccolo 0.08m 23rd Jul 09
The Munchables 0.04m 26th May 09
Klonoa 0.09m 05th May 09
One Piece Unlimited Cruise: Episode 2 - Awakening of a Hero 0.10m 26th Feb 09
Fragile Dreams: Farewell Ruins of the Moon 0.06m 22nd Jan 09
     
Square Enix (6)    
Fullmetal Alchemist: Daughter of the Dusk 0.00m 10th Dec 09
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers 0.14m 12th Nov 09
Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Akatsuki no Ouji 0.01m 13th Aug 09
Major Minor's Majestic March 0.01m 23rd Apr 09
007: Quantum of Solace 0.52m 26th Mar 09
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time 0.16m 29th Jan 09
     
Ubisoft (30)    
Sleepover Party 0.00m 04th Dec 09
James Cameron's Avatar: The Game 0.20m 01st Dec 09
Cook Wars 0.01m 24th Nov 09
Your Shape featuring Jenny McCarthy 0.31m 24th Nov 09
Just Dance 0.69m 17th Nov 09
Team Elimination Games 0.03m 10th Nov 09
Shaun White Snowboarding: World Stage 0.08m 08th Nov 09
Knockout Party 0.00m 06th Nov 09
Academy of Champions: Soccer 0.02m 03rd Nov 09
Rabbids Go Home 0.59m 03rd Nov 09
CSI: Deadly Intent 0.10m 27th Oct 09
Monster 4x4: Stunt Racer 0.05m 27th Oct 09
Press Your Luck 2010 Edition 0.18m 27th Oct 09
Family Feud 2010 0.27m 29th Sep 09
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Smash-Up 0.18m 22nd Sep 09
The Price Is Right 2010 Edition 0.08m 22nd Sep 09
Where's Waldo? The Fantastic Journey 0.10m 22nd Sep 09
Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs 0.05m 15th Sep 09
Gold's Gym: Cardio Workout (Others sales) 0.21m 17th Jul 09
Summer Sports 2: Island Sports Party 0.14m 03rd Jul 09
Dawn of Discovery 0.06m 23rd Jun 09
World Sports Party 0.00m 27th Mar 09
Gold's Gym: Cardio Workout 0.55m 25th Mar 09
Broken Sword: Shadows of the Templars - The Director's Cut 0.15m 24th Mar 09
No More Heroes / Red Steel 0.00m 19th Mar 09
Vacation Sports 0.05m 10th Mar 09
Grey's Anatomy: The Video Game 0.04m 04th Mar 09
Six Flags Fun Park 0.15m 03rd Mar 09
Tenchu: Shadow Assassins 0.12m 05th Feb 09
Imagine: Fashion Party 0.12m 03rd Feb 09
     
     
     
     
     
Konami (22)    
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories 0.11m 08th Dec 09
Storybook Workshop 0.02m 01st Dec 09
Scene It? Twilight 0.07m 29th Nov 09
Karaoke Revolution 0.10m 24th Nov 09
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 0.24m 20th Nov 09
Family Challenge Wii 0.00m 19th Nov 09
Metal Fight Beyblade Gachinko Stadium 0.03m 19th Nov 09
Ultimate Party Challenge 0.02m 03rd Nov 09
Dance Dance Revolution: Hottest Party 3 0.06m 27th Oct 09
Tornado Outbreak 0.02m 29th Sep 09
Pop'n Music 0.02m 06th Aug 09
Tele-Shibai Wii 0.00m 30th Jul 09
Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Wheelie Breakers (JP sales) 0.02m 19th May 09
Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Wheelie Breakers 0.07m 19th May 09
Shikakui Atama wo Marukusuru Wii 0.00m 30th Apr 09
Jikkyou Powerful Major League 2009 0.04m 29th Apr 09
Mahjong Kakutou Club Wii: Wi-Fi Taiou 0.00m 29th Apr 09
Dance Dance Revolution: Disney Grooves 0.14m 02nd Apr 09
Dance Dance Revolution: Winx Club 0.00m 26th Mar 09
Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Next 0.06m 19th Mar 09
Marble Saga: Kororinpa 0.06m 17th Mar 09
PES 2009: Pro Evolution Soccer 0.36m 17th Mar 09
     
     
Sega (12)    
Puyo Puyo 7 0.04m 26th Nov 09
Jambo! Safari Animal Rescue 0.02m 17th Nov 09
Planet 51 0.03m 17th Nov 09
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games 2.82m 13th Oct 09
Wacky World of Sports 0.03m 18th Sep 09
Daisy Fuentes Pilates 0.08m 04th Aug 09
The Conduit 0.38m 23rd Jun 09
Virtua Tennis 2009 0.24m 09th Jun 09
Suzumiya Haruhi no Heiretsu 0.02m 26th Mar 09
MadWorld 0.40m 20th Mar 09
Sonic and the Black Knight 0.45m 03rd Mar 09
The House of the Dead: Overkill 0.57m 10th Feb 09
     
     
Capcom (6)    
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles 0.31m 17th Nov 09
Spyborgs 0.05m 22nd Sep 09
Monster Hunter Tri 1.00m 01st Aug 09
Monster Hunter G 0.25m 23rd Apr 09
MotoGP 0.10m 24th Mar 09
Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop 0.20m 24th Feb 09

EDIT Reformatted the table

Good list. Now to highlight the licensed ones that were pretty much mandatory, and the stinkers.........Stinkers are in yellow, licensed is highlighted in blue. Like what you see?



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darthdevidem01 said:
trestres said:
Johann said:

So what you're saying is that although the Wii sells the most sofware (1st and 3rd party) and hardware out of the big 3, you still want more support to go to it?

More support? Don't you mean at least some support?

trestres you made similar thread throughout last year & have made this one now.

You want some support? Wii has 3rd party support

if you want the support, basically the games 3rd parties are giving to HD consoles, its really time you decided to maybe get a PS3 or a 360 as your second console.

Beside 1st party wise Wii is looking brilliant in 2010

Why should we be forced to buy another console for games that should also be on the Wii?



3rd parties can adapt or die. Sadly, for the most part they seem to be choosing the latter. :/



Ey, Monster Huner Tri has already sold 1M only in Japan...why others 3rd parties do not make games of the same quality?



NJ5 said:
donathos said:
Khuutra said:

I think the thing here is that trestres - like many other Wii buyers (myself excluded, and I want to point that out particularly) - wants third parties to publish the same sorts of games on the Wii that they do on the HD consoles.

It's not a bad wish, it's jsut untenable and it would be a terrible decision for these companies.

For myself, I don't wish that third parties would publish the same games--or even the same *sorts* of games--on the Wii as they do on the HDs.

Rather, I wish they would publish games that had the same level of investment as those on the HDs seem to have, and then were marketed with the same kind of fervor.

They don't need to have the same level of investment. Wii games are cheaper to make.

That being said, I agree with you that Khuutra didn't state my opinion correctly, and I believe I have the same one as many others...

I said trestres, not NJ5



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Innervate said:
darthdevidem01 said:
trestres said:
Johann said:

So what you're saying is that although the Wii sells the most sofware (1st and 3rd party) and hardware out of the big 3, you still want more support to go to it?

More support? Don't you mean at least some support?

trestres you made similar thread throughout last year & have made this one now.

You want some support? Wii has 3rd party support

if you want the support, basically the games 3rd parties are giving to HD consoles, its really time you decided to maybe get a PS3 or a 360 as your second console.

Beside 1st party wise Wii is looking brilliant in 2010

Why should we be forced to buy another console for games that should also be on the Wii?

Because they're... not?



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Johann said:

So what you're saying is that although the Wii sells the most sofware (1st and 3rd party) and hardware out of the big 3, you still want more support to go to it?

Nintendo get tonnes of support, but it's mostly shovelware. And I'm not talking about the software that core gamers call shovelware but aren't (Carnival Games, Deca Sports, etc.) but the tonnes of games that publishers churn out hoping that customers will be tricked into thinking it's a better game resembling it. The bulk of third party sales on Wii are from the exceptions, the games that don't treat their customers like idiots.

 

Unfortunately those games are limited in scope, publishers don't believe they can have a hit Wii game outside of certain genres, so they don't put money behind them outside of the occassional low budget, "experimental" games like Dead Space Extraction. These are often left to die. Smaller publishers do support Wii with core games, but they're often either just bad, or very narrow in appeal.

 

Considering how many core games have proven to sell on Wii, and I will list Nintendo games as there's nothing magical about Nintendo, (Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros, NSMB, Metroid Prime, The Legend of Zelda, Star Wars:TFU, Resident Evil, even weak Call of Duty ports), there is no excuse for not supporting the Wii with strong core efforts. "We can't compete with Nintendo first party" translates to "we're not able to make great games". "Wii doesn't sell core games" is plainly false.



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Innervate said:
darthdevidem01 said:
trestres said:
Johann said:

So what you're saying is that although the Wii sells the most sofware (1st and 3rd party) and hardware out of the big 3, you still want more support to go to it?

More support? Don't you mean at least some support?

trestres you made similar thread throughout last year & have made this one now.

You want some support? Wii has 3rd party support

if you want the support, basically the games 3rd parties are giving to HD consoles, its really time you decided to maybe get a PS3 or a 360 as your second console.

Beside 1st party wise Wii is looking brilliant in 2010

Why should we be forced to buy another console for games that should also be on the Wii?

Trestres seems CONVINCED wii won't get 3rd support from here on out, but he still wants it

the only advice for him is to get a PS3 or 360 so he will be happy with that support he sees them getting



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guiduc said:


Nintendo is really better as a third party publisher.

You should probably stop hitting the crack pipe.

D-pad

shoulder buttons

analog stick

rumble

Single-handedly legitimized home consoles

motion controls

touch screen controls

dual screens

legitimatized portable gaming

 

Virtually every single innovation in controlling games in the last 30 years has come about thanks to Nintendo.  Not only is their software so far above everyone else in the industry, but just a small glance backwards show they're also the only ones innovating on the hardware front.

Can you imagine this generation without Nintendo in the hardware business? Piles and piles of dead publishers everywhere (more than we already have), and all of them unable to compete with Nintendo (who they couldn't run away from like they do now). All of them forced to make really expensive HD games thanks to the technological bullying of Sony and Microsoft.

Not only that, but you'd also have consoles, with what they're currently selling at minus Nintendo, considered all but dead.

With Nintendo dead, who would Sony steal ideas from? Microsoft? HAHAHA!!



Khuutra said:

I said trestres, not NJ5

 

True, I just wanted to highlight that it doesn't need to be about getting games equal to PS3/360 ones... just something with the same level of effort (in terms of game design, as the Wii doesn't need as much effort on the graphical side).

 



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