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trestres said:

I'm wondering at the moment when will any Japanese company out of the big ones (SE, Capcom, Konami, Namco Bandai, Tecmo Koei, Sega, Level 5) announce anything for the Wii U. I mean, it's already past its launch and none seems to seriously being supporting the console at all.

Other than 2 ports from Capcom (MH3U and Re: Revelations), the single port from SE (DQX), the 2 ports from Namco Bandai (Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Tank Tank Tank!), 3 ports from Tecmo Koei (Ninja Gaiden 3, Fist of the North Warrior 3, Warriors Orochi 3) plus one multiplat (Romance of the 3 Kingdoms XII) and 2 West-only games from Sega (Sonic Racing and Aliens) there is nothing of significance announced for the console.


That's a very similar situation to the way the exact same third parties treated Vita at its launch.

Capcom, 1 port (UMVC3); SE, 1 new game (Lord of Apocalypse); Namco Bandai, 2 new games (Ridge Racer & Katamari); Tecmo Koei, 1 port & 1 new game (Dynasty Warriors & Ninja Gaiden); SEGA, 1 port (Virtua Tennis).

Evidently from making this list, Vita got a few less ports and a few more original games.  But the sentiment, at least early on, felt basically the same - shit support.  The thing is, over time, some of these companies fell off the map completely (Capcom only released 1 more port; Square Enix have released nothing) whereas other companies have stepped up their game (Tecmo Koei seem to be porting everything; SEGA invested pretty nicely with Miku & PSO; Bamco stepped up with porting Tales titles and having PS3/PSV cross-releases). 

I think it wouldn't be surprising to see a similar thing to happen with Wii-U - at the very least, until the console 'takes off'.  As more games get made, I think you'll see companies like Namco & SEGA at least porting their games to Wii-U, if not releasing an original title here and there (I'd be surprised if there wasn't an exclusive Sonic for Wii-U).  But these things just take time, is pretty much the long & short of it.

One advantage Vita had over Wii-U that I think might be an area for Nintendo to look at, though, is getting the support of smaller third-parties.  So for example, Nippon Ichi Software & Sony have always had a close relationship, meaning things like Disgaea showed up on Vita.  Nihon Falcom, Kadokawa Games & Gust have all filled gaps in a very empty Vita release schedule during 2012 with their own games, just becauase of (what I would assume) are long-standing ties with Sony. Although these aren't the type of games that light COMG on fire (or even show up in most cases), at least they provide something for the time being.

Perhaps there's not an analogy to be drawn here.  Vita is a handheld; Wii-U is a home console, so they're totally different markets, and I'd imagine Wii-U dev costs will be higher.  But idk, to me it seems similar enough at least.



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trestres said:

I'm wondering at the moment when will any Japanese company out of the big ones (SE, Capcom, Konami, Namco Bandai, Tecmo Koei, Sega, Level 5) announce anything for the Wii U. I mean, it's already past its launch and none seems to seriously being supporting the console at all.

Other than 2 ports from Capcom (MH3U and Re: Revelations), the single port from SE (DQX), the 2 ports from Namco Bandai (Tekken Tag Tournament 2 and Tank Tank Tank!), 3 ports from Tecmo Koei (Ninja Gaiden 3, Fist of the North Warrior 3, Warriors Orochi 3) plus one multiplat (Romance of the 3 Kingdoms XII) and 2 West-only games from Sega (Sonic Racing and Aliens) there is nothing of significance announced for the console.

Out of all the games named there, only 1 isn't a late port (ROT3KXII) and it bombed, the rest are all ports and only 2 of them are still unreleased (RE:Revelations and DQX) which is terrible.

It's indeed strange and worrisome that not even Japanese companies are willing to support the Wii U early in its life. It's been all ports and nothing else. Japanese consumers rarely fall for ports, their money is on new IP's or sequels to big franchises. Japanese 3rd parties are not committed nor enthusiastic towards the Wii U, there are no ambitious or exclusive projects for the platform at the moment and there will not be for a long time, since it takes years to produce a big budget game for a new platform. I don't think they are being hidden on purpose either, that wouldn't make sense. Nintendo is desperate to find some appeal for its console and would be asking devs to announce a big project.

3DS had all Japanese publishers on board prior to the console's launch.
Level 5, Konami, Square Enix, Atlus, Capcom, Marvelous, Namco Bandai, Sega, Tecmo Koei.
All of them with exclusive new content announced for the platform, many big titles along popular franchises among them. Meanwhile Wii U's launch and pre launch situation is nothing alike, publishers do not care about it, even PSV had more support planned prior to launch.

Many of the game announced for 3DS post launch many of them out after more then one year and some has been canned.



PS4 - over 100 millions let's say 120m
Xbox One - 70m
Wii U - 25m

Vita - 15m if it will not get Final Fantasy Kingdoms Heart and Monster Hunter 20m otherwise
3DS - 80m

Don't forget upcoming Wii U Nintendo Direct with new 3rd party games. Iwata promised it during last Direct 23/1.



Meret said:
Don't forget upcoming Wii U Nintendo Direct with new 3rd party games. Iwata promised it during last Direct 23/1.

Still no word on that, and it can't come soon enough... although they rarely announce Nintendo Directs more than a day in advance, the next one could be coming this Friday and we wouldn't know for a couple of days yet.





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Layton...



Finally tagging.
I check this thread everyday, yet I never post. Anyways, Tales of Hearts finally made it, and Soul Sacrifice will probably never make it :(



I held off on posting numbers at the update today :) despite being pleased with a 1 for Tales & a 2 for PSO (I'll take what I can get!) As with Layton, a 1 is better than a 0 at this point!

6 for Shining Ark was very pleasing though. We've tracked the last 2 Shining games on PSP at 200k LTD sales; with an 109k first week for Hearts (2010) and a 123k first week for Blade (2012). I wonder what Ark is gonna do.



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