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famousringo said:
kitler53 said:
famousringo said:
libellule said:
Racing game need WHEEL

not wand

Yeah, I don't understand how Gem could possibly be used effectively in a racing game.

If you want motion controls, I'm pretty sure tilt steering is already supported by Prologue.

gem could (potentially) have better tilt steering.

anyways, doesn't gem require to be processed via the ps3 hardware,...GT would probably have to take the graphics down a notch in order to support it.  i'm doubting this idea very much.

Maybe if you didn't mind holding the wand up with one hand so that the PSEye can see it clearly. Awkward to use both hands without obscuring the magic glowing ball at the heart of Gem's technology.

Perhaps Sony could make a Gem Wheel which would be easy for the PSEye to track.

the magic glowing ball would only be one point in space.  the gem (and correct me if i'm wrong) has accelerometers and gravity-sensor-thingies just like the wii-mote.  The glowing ball is only for the third dimension measurement.   So, just like mario kart wii can do tilt stearing with it's IR camera hidden in the wii-wheel the gem should too.



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kitler53 said:
famousringo said:
kitler53 said:

gem could (potentially) have better tilt steering.

anyways, doesn't gem require to be processed via the ps3 hardware,...GT would probably have to take the graphics down a notch in order to support it.  i'm doubting this idea very much.

Maybe if you didn't mind holding the wand up with one hand so that the PSEye can see it clearly. Awkward to use both hands without obscuring the magic glowing ball at the heart of Gem's technology.

Perhaps Sony could make a Gem Wheel which would be easy for the PSEye to track.

the magic glowing ball would only be one point in space.  the gem (and correct me if i'm wrong) has accelerometers and gravity-sensor-thingies just like the wii-mote.  The glowing ball is only for the third dimension measurement.   So, just like mario kart wii can do tilt stearing with it's IR camera hidden in the wii-wheel the gem should too.

So, you're just guessing that the Gem might have better accelerometers than the sixaxis? I'm actually unsure whether Gem has accelerometers or not. I've seen people suggest it has, but it always sounded like supposition rather than specs from Sony. BTW, the accelerometer itself is the gravity sensor, since gravity is a constant source of acceleration.

Well, if it does have accelerometers, Gem might be more comfortable to hold for tilt control. I find the grips that make conventional game pads so comfortable for buttons and thumbsticks become clumsy when you're tilting around. I still don't see why GT5 would be delayed for the sake of Gem if Gem isn't going to do anything for steering that the sixaxis doesn't already do, and sixaxis support was long since implemented in GT5:P.



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kowenicki said:
its just delayed...... why does there have to be a mysterious reason?

Because we have been waiting for a very long time



famousringo said:
kitler53 said:
famousringo said:
kitler53 said:
 

gem could (potentially) have better tilt steering.

anyways, doesn't gem require to be processed via the ps3 hardware,...GT would probably have to take the graphics down a notch in order to support it.  i'm doubting this idea very much.

Maybe if you didn't mind holding the wand up with one hand so that the PSEye can see it clearly. Awkward to use both hands without obscuring the magic glowing ball at the heart of Gem's technology.

Perhaps Sony could make a Gem Wheel which would be easy for the PSEye to track.

the magic glowing ball would only be one point in space.  the gem (and correct me if i'm wrong) has accelerometers and gravity-sensor-thingies just like the wii-mote.  The glowing ball is only for the third dimension measurement.   So, just like mario kart wii can do tilt stearing with it's IR camera hidden in the wii-wheel the gem should too.

So, you're just guessing that the Gem might have better accelerometers than the sixaxis? I'm actually unsure whether Gem has accelerometers or not. I've seen people suggest it has, but it always sounded like supposition rather than specs from Sony. BTW, the accelerometer itself is the gravity sensor, since gravity is a constant source of acceleration.

Well, if it does have accelerometers, Gem might be more comfortable to hold for tilt control. I find the grips that make conventional game pads so comfortable for buttons and thumbsticks become clumsy when you're tilting around. I still don't see why GT5 would be delayed for the sake of Gem if Gem isn't going to do anything for steering that the sixaxis doesn't already do, and sixaxis support was long since implemented in GT5:P.

correct, i'm just guessing.  ...and like i said in my first post, i doubt GT will have gem support.



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Maybe they want a WW same timesy release



famousringo said:
kitler53 said:
famousringo said:
kitler53 said:
 

gem could (potentially) have better tilt steering.

anyways, doesn't gem require to be processed via the ps3 hardware,...GT would probably have to take the graphics down a notch in order to support it.  i'm doubting this idea very much.

Maybe if you didn't mind holding the wand up with one hand so that the PSEye can see it clearly. Awkward to use both hands without obscuring the magic glowing ball at the heart of Gem's technology.

Perhaps Sony could make a Gem Wheel which would be easy for the PSEye to track.

the magic glowing ball would only be one point in space.  the gem (and correct me if i'm wrong) has accelerometers and gravity-sensor-thingies just like the wii-mote.  The glowing ball is only for the third dimension measurement.   So, just like mario kart wii can do tilt stearing with it's IR camera hidden in the wii-wheel the gem should too.

So, you're just guessing that the Gem might have better accelerometers than the sixaxis? I'm actually unsure whether Gem has accelerometers or not. I've seen people suggest it has, but it always sounded like supposition rather than specs from Sony. BTW, the accelerometer itself is the gravity sensor, since gravity is a constant source of acceleration.

Might not have better accelerometers than sixaxis, but accelerometers were confirmed in one of the promotional vids by the dude who developed the thing. So accelerometers in the gem/wand is fairly certain I'd think.

GT5 doesn't need Gem, but maybe they decided gem needs GT5. If it's an optional control mechanic (just adding a third option to the existing analog stick and steering wheel options) then I don't know why people are against it. Unless it pushes it to a 2011 release date.



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kowenicki said:
its just delayed...... why does there have to be a mysterious reason?

because speculation is fun :)



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Seems obvious they are incorporating gem support.

Smart move!



kowenicki said:
its just delayed...... why does there have to be a mysterious reason?

but this way we can be outraged later if it doesn't have the "confirmed" GEM-Support!

...just like some people complain right now about "another" delay, although it never had a official release date ever before the Japanese one.

 



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