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Kantor on 11 January 2010

I don't regret buying it in December 2007. It was a reasonable price, and already had some great games. The only thing which annoys me is the tiny 40GB hard drive; I really have to change that at some point.

No console could possibly be what the PS3 is now, at launch. Sure, consoles launch at $300, but they don't have the incredible exclusive and multiplat lineup that the PS3 now boasts.



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Euphoria14 on 11 January 2010
CGI-Quality said:
TRios_Zen said:
supercat said:
TRios_Zen said:
 

Sony had >75% share of the video game market.  You are suggesting that they willingly decided to give up thier strangle hold on that market to get the advantage in another sector?

I would completely disagree with that sorry.  They did not expect to drop to 25% of the market by this move or they never would've done it.

Sony will decide to do whatever it wants to make Sony as a whole as wealthy as possible that's finance theory and if adding a costly component to the PS3 will give success w/ Blu-ray, and help w/ the 3D initiative even while limiting the PS3 for 3 years or so, big deal right?  Also, keep in mind that they had much better competition this round anyway with the Wii and 360 so try to look at the whole picture.  Also, keep in mind that no division of Sony's is worth more than Sony as a whole.  Sony's performance as a whole over the long term is the only thing that matters to stockholders, so that is really the only thing that matters. 

 

Sorry dude, in my BBA and MBA, they didn't teach the finance theory that stated, lose 50% guaranteed market share with the hope that you might make money somewhere else.

Now, it's cool that you believe what you believe, but don't quote "finance theory" as if that is some golden pass.  Unless you are calling out a specific theory, and then please, share that.

Sony's Playstation division was long the bread winner of the Sony family and helped support thier failing divisions in times of need, that's pretty evident from previous annual reports.

Now I agree they wanted another arm of thier company to perform well and having a stake in the format winner is a boon for them.  I simply do not agree that they ever thought they would lose so much market share in the process.

I have to agree with this.

You truly believe Sony thought that by launching a $600 console they would catch the industry by storm and expect monumental sales? O_o

They thought a $600 console would blow past a $250 and a $400 console?

 

Maybe you're right, but I really have my doubts.



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MikeB on 11 January 2010

I was very happy to buy the PS3 at launch and would easily have paid twice as much for this device. From a hardware perspective it's seriously cool tech, but I was also realistic, stating years ahead of its release that it would take quite a while for developers to truly tap its true potential and that those who were still having to deal with obsolete gaming engines or have to support alternative consoles would unlikely come close for much longer.

It was exciting to be part of the PS3's evolution and I believe there are so many great and amazing developments yet to come!



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Kantor on 11 January 2010
Euphoria14 said:
CGI-Quality said:
TRios_Zen said:

Sorry dude, in my BBA and MBA, they didn't teach the finance theory that stated, lose 50% guaranteed market share with the hope that you might make money somewhere else.

Now, it's cool that you believe what you believe, but don't quote "finance theory" as if that is some golden pass.  Unless you are calling out a specific theory, and then please, share that.

Sony's Playstation division was long the bread winner of the Sony family and helped support thier failing divisions in times of need, that's pretty evident from previous annual reports.

Now I agree they wanted another arm of thier company to perform well and having a stake in the format winner is a boon for them.  I simply do not agree that they ever thought they would lose so much market share in the process.

I have to agree with this.

You truly believe Sony thought that by launching a $600 console they would catch the industry by storm and expect monumental sales? O_o

They thought a $600 console would blow past a $250 and a $400 console?

 

Maybe you're right, but I really have my doubts.

They didn't think they would do well with a $600 PS3. They just thought they would do better than they ended up doing.

It's for the best that they didn't, of course. Less money lost.



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Euphoria14 on 11 January 2010
Kantor said:
Euphoria14 said:
CGI-Quality said:
TRios_Zen said:

Sorry dude, in my BBA and MBA, they didn't teach the finance theory that stated, lose 50% guaranteed market share with the hope that you might make money somewhere else.

Now, it's cool that you believe what you believe, but don't quote "finance theory" as if that is some golden pass.  Unless you are calling out a specific theory, and then please, share that.

Sony's Playstation division was long the bread winner of the Sony family and helped support thier failing divisions in times of need, that's pretty evident from previous annual reports.

Now I agree they wanted another arm of thier company to perform well and having a stake in the format winner is a boon for them.  I simply do not agree that they ever thought they would lose so much market share in the process.

I have to agree with this.

You truly believe Sony thought that by launching a $600 console they would catch the industry by storm and expect monumental sales? O_o

They thought a $600 console would blow past a $250 and a $400 console?

 

Maybe you're right, but I really have my doubts.

They didn't think they would do well with a $600 PS3. They just thought they would do better than they ended up doing.

It's for the best that they didn't, of course. Less money lost.

Do we know this or do we assume this because of PS2 success?



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Kantor on 11 January 2010
Euphoria14 said:
Kantor said:
Euphoria14 said:
CGI-Quality said:
TRios_Zen said:

Sorry dude, in my BBA and MBA, they didn't teach the finance theory that stated, lose 50% guaranteed market share with the hope that you might make money somewhere else.

Now, it's cool that you believe what you believe, but don't quote "finance theory" as if that is some golden pass.  Unless you are calling out a specific theory, and then please, share that.

Sony's Playstation division was long the bread winner of the Sony family and helped support thier failing divisions in times of need, that's pretty evident from previous annual reports.

Now I agree they wanted another arm of thier company to perform well and having a stake in the format winner is a boon for them.  I simply do not agree that they ever thought they would lose so much market share in the process.

I have to agree with this.

You truly believe Sony thought that by launching a $600 console they would catch the industry by storm and expect monumental sales? O_o

They thought a $600 console would blow past a $250 and a $400 console?

 

Maybe you're right, but I really have my doubts.

They didn't think they would do well with a $600 PS3. They just thought they would do better than they ended up doing.

It's for the best that they didn't, of course. Less money lost.

Do we know this or do we assume this because of PS2 success?

"People will think 'I will work more hours to buy one'"

"The first five million will come without any games" (or some such thing)

On a side note: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi

Some hilarious stuff in there.



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Euphoria14 on 11 January 2010
Kantor said:
Euphoria14 said:

Do we know this or do we assume this because of PS2 success?

"People will think 'I will work more hours to buy one'"

"The first five million will come without any games" (or some such thing)

On a side note: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi

Some hilarious stuff in there.

Well according to what I have read, it did sell 5 million without any games.

 

As for the first thing, the thing cost a ton, I guess he felt that was the best way to hype it up? Very stupid way though if you ask me.



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djs on 11 January 2010

Well, the PS3 is now what it should be ay launch.
Thats why I bought one now...



Kantor on 11 January 2010
djs said:
Well, the PS3 is now what it should be ay launch.
Thats why I bought one now...

You expected the PS3 to have 2 Uncharteds, 3 R&Cs and 4 Call of Duties at launch?



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supercat on 11 January 2010
Kantor said:
Euphoria14 said:
Kantor said:
Euphoria14 said:
CGI-Quality said:
TRios_Zen said:

Sorry dude, in my BBA and MBA, they didn't teach the finance theory that stated, lose 50% guaranteed market share with the hope that you might make money somewhere else.

Now, it's cool that you believe what you believe, but don't quote "finance theory" as if that is some golden pass.  Unless you are calling out a specific theory, and then please, share that.

Sony's Playstation division was long the bread winner of the Sony family and helped support thier failing divisions in times of need, that's pretty evident from previous annual reports.

Now I agree they wanted another arm of thier company to perform well and having a stake in the format winner is a boon for them.  I simply do not agree that they ever thought they would lose so much market share in the process.

I have to agree with this.

You truly believe Sony thought that by launching a $600 console they would catch the industry by storm and expect monumental sales? O_o

They thought a $600 console would blow past a $250 and a $400 console?

 

Maybe you're right, but I really have my doubts.

They didn't think they would do well with a $600 PS3. They just thought they would do better than they ended up doing.

It's for the best that they didn't, of course. Less money lost.

Do we know this or do we assume this because of PS2 success?

"People will think 'I will work more hours to buy one'"

"The first five million will come without any games" (or some such thing)

On a side note: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ken_Kutaragi

Some hilarious stuff in there.

Krazy Ken  ftw!!!