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vaio said:
-ku- said:
CGI-Quality said:
It's funny, for two straight gens, people claimed Nintendo was "doomed/domed", "on their way out" and such....

Haven't people learned, Nintendo continues to have the last laugh. They got their asses handed to them by Sony for two gens, while continuing to make money, and more money than Sony.

"Domed" eh....?

*cough* more money than sony.

 

I'm pretty sure Sony as a company made somewhere between 5-15 Billion on the PS2+ SW and 2-6 Billion on PS1+SW

 

In Now way did systems selling around 70 million Units (for Nintendo) beat this. Unless you can elaborate

Actually he is right Sony never came close to make as much profit as Nintendo.

I dont have the link but soon enough someone will post it so you can see for your self.

I'll do one better than a link; here's a picture (I did not put the MS Paint "PWNED" on there):

That's back from the Gamecube-PS2-XBox era.



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tarheel91 said:
vaio said:
-ku- said:
CGI-Quality said:
It's funny, for two straight gens, people claimed Nintendo was "doomed/domed", "on their way out" and such....

Haven't people learned, Nintendo continues to have the last laugh. They got their asses handed to them by Sony for two gens, while continuing to make money, and more money than Sony.

"Domed" eh....?

*cough* more money than sony.

 

I'm pretty sure Sony as a company made somewhere between 5-15 Billion on the PS2+ SW and 2-6 Billion on PS1+SW

 

In Now way did systems selling around 70 million Units (for Nintendo) beat this. Unless you can elaborate

Actually he is right Sony never came close to make as much profit as Nintendo.

I dont have the link but soon enough someone will post it so you can see for your self.

I'll do one better than a link; here's a picture (I did not put the MS Paint "PWNED" on there):

That's back from the Gamecube-PS2-XBox era.

hahaha thats so insane that Sony made so much less then nintendo with 100+ millions sold consoles.

There is something fundamentaly wrong at Sony when it comes to making profits and now they are paying for it.



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CGI-Quality said:
vaio said:
tarheel91 said:
vaio said:
-ku- said:
CGI-Quality said:
It's funny, for two straight gens, people claimed Nintendo was "doomed/domed", "on their way out" and such....

Haven't people learned, Nintendo continues to have the last laugh. They got their asses handed to them by Sony for two gens, while continuing to make money, and more money than Sony.

"Domed" eh....?

*cough* more money than sony.

 

I'm pretty sure Sony as a company made somewhere between 5-15 Billion on the PS2+ SW and 2-6 Billion on PS1+SW

 

In Now way did systems selling around 70 million Units (for Nintendo) beat this. Unless you can elaborate

Actually he is right Sony never came close to make as much profit as Nintendo.

I dont have the link but soon enough someone will post it so you can see for your self.

I'll do one better than a link; here's a picture (I did not put the MS Paint "PWNED" on there):

That's back from the Gamecube-PS2-XBox era.

hahaha thats so insane that Sony made so much less then nintendo with 100+ millions sold consoles.

There is something fundamentaly wrong at Sony when it comes to making profits and now they are paying for it.

No. It's just that Nintendo made so much on software. Why do you think Sony is picking up on creating their own IPs this gen? They took a page from Nintedno's playbook, though Nintendo is just better at making money.

Higher Marketshare =/= higher profits. Nintendo's attach rates in those past gens were off the charts, despite the MUCH lower userbases of the N64 & Gamecube to the PS1/PS2. IMO, it's telling of the quality of their products and the power of their brand/marketing. That is why they sat where they sat. Sony's business is more spread out. That's also evident in how many IPs they develop/own. But their attach rates are not in the same league as Nintendo's, thus Wii Fit sits at 20+ million while NONE of Sony's current IPs could even dream of such a sales achievment. Bad thing, absolutely not. It just boils down to Nintendo being smarter, IMO, and knowing how to hit the jackpot (catching the right audience overall).

 

End of the day, Sony takes more risks than Nintendo, yes, but sometimes those risks are REAL damaging in the end. Nintendo is just smarter than Sony when it comes to making money. Yes, Nintendo took a gamble with the Wii, but it payed off, BIG TIME. Nintendo just knows how/where the market needs to tighten up, thus making them the smartest company in this biz.

For Sony, at least with PS1/PS2 it was about marketshare & some profit. For Nintendo, it was about innovation/profit/looking ahead. In the end, this may be Nintendo's last winning gen, and then again, maybe not. Point is, no matter what they do, they always put making money first, and that will keep them striving in this insustry no matter what their markestshare looks like.

 

Of course marketshare is important, but making money is top priority. I'm sure Nintendo agrees. Why have a product on the market that ONLY sucks you dry? You want to make money, not lose it battling for marketshare. I'm sure Sony is now learning this, albeit the hard way.

Thus, I leave this post with this food for thought: Sony is a brilliant company, who sometimes makes some hefty mistakes, but they are the bigger risk takers IMO. Nintendo is the smartest, and always keeps profits at the forefront of their business model.And so far, their risks have payed off.

Just my $0.02.

I agree with everything except the 2 bolded statements.

Nintendo has taken bigger risks then Sony ever did (talking about gaming here), maybe its because they been around longer.

Sony was a brilliant company but is filled with morons at the moment, they were brilliant up untill the late 90´s after that its been downhill.

I also want to add that there is no excuse to make that much less profits with that big of a lead over 2 generations thats just bad managing.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

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CGI-Quality said:

Perhaps. When it comes to Sony's business though, even brilliant people can fumble. Maybe they do have some "ding-dongs" working within Sony Computer Entertainment. But, if/when they get themselves out of this mess, the brilliance the company may have once had can come to life once more.

The risks I meant with Sony were strictly technological risks. Not surprising either, as Sony is, at their heart, an electronics company. I agree that when it comes to games themselves, Nintendo probably has taken the bigger risks, though titles like HEAVY RAIN and The Last Guardian show that Sony is still willing to take some software risks as well. Interesting conversation, nonetheless.

 

If they get back on track they will be a beast and a big headache for Nintendo, afterall they have not been in the buisness as long as Nintendo so they have a bit experience to catch up too and for the first time (in the videogame buisness) they are showing the right signals when it comes to creating their own IP´s and the future is very exciting.

Heavy Rain will probably be the game that makes me get a PS3 as i loved Fahreinheit and been waiting for a follow up and I agree with you Sony is taking some software risks this gen and I hope it pays off.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

I am surprised that this thread attracted this many responses. I guess flame bait is baiting? Everyone should of caught the joke the instant the TC said they were conerned over 0.2% market share. I don't think there is a console in history, that has risen to first place in the presence of direct competition, and then floundered. The Wii install base is nearly the combined total of both its competitors. It is silly to assume that either company can catch up. The Xbxo 360 has the best chance since it is only 22 million units behind, but if it took 4 years to get to the 37 million it is at now, it would take at least two years to get through another 22 million units, and that would just be to catch up to where the Wii is at now. As another poster mentioned, that would require Nintendo to stop selling Wiis all together. Good times though. Glad to see folks have a sense of humor on these forums.



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bluh, people above are true

these kind of discussions are pointless



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