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jarrod on 11 January 2010

Well, the article is pretty shitty and really badly researched.  Abandoning PSP is obviously the wrong course of action, but there are pretty huge problems with the platform and I do think Sony needs to respond quickly before the rest of the industry sinks it.  The "PSP revival" this past 2nd half went disasterously for them, I don't think PSP can survive another year like 2009 and I doubt most publishers and retailers will stick around if it does.

 

Burning Typhoon said:
So.. the Wii has the same problem.. It sells well, but, software is another story... Maybe Nintendo should take this advice too.... for the long run...

Holy crap.. I just noticed this came from IGN... Wow... I don't like those guys anymore, that did it... They re-designed their site to look like crap, and now they post ignorant articles. I'd noticed it a few times before, but, this is enough...

There's no reason to cancel the PSP when it's making PROFIT. Sony just better make the next PSP(2) as hard to hack as a PS3, and give it mini blu-ray discs with no plastic casing around it. Also, the N2000 series should be slightly redesigned, and have a larger screen, smaller screens are never better.

PSP did well against Nintendo, it didn't fail like all of SEGA's tries.. Next generation, PSP will do the Nintendo like 360 did to PS3. Big corporations learn from their mistakes, that's how they survive.

Wii software sales are amazing, especially considering it's bundled with a pack in in almost all markets.  It's moved more software than any other console this generation, and what, like four times as much as PSP has... it's a laughably incomparable situation.

Also, Game Gear (Sega's one legitimate attempt at Nintendo's handheld crown) managed 20-25% marketshare during it's active lifespan.  Not quite up there with PSP's 30-35%, but not all that far behind and certainly not a "failure" historically.  This revisionist history of PSP being the only decent handheld competitor has to stop, they weren't the first and they won't be the last.  If anything, the media seems to be lending more credence to iPhone/iPod touch as the strongest handheld Nintendo competitor.

 

nitekrawler1285 said:

The one region where their development studios focus on the system it is a success.  They also advertise games there.  Paying studios to make PSP games would also be cheaper as well.  

I'd have to disagree.  The vast bulk of Sony's interesting PSP content seems to be coming from America and Europe, if anything it's their Japanese studios that are overlooking it.  Patapon and Loco Roco were awesome, but besides that it's been pretty dry.

Also, PSP saw a pretty massive tumble in Japan this year, the worst decline of any platform.  It basically went from nearly selling on par with DS in 2008 to nearly selling on par with Wii in 2009 (which itself had a huge drop).  And in software sales, it's well behind Wii even in Japan.



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nitekrawler1285 on 11 January 2010
jarrod said:

Well, the article is pretty shitty and really badly researched.  Abandoning PSP is obviously the wrong course of action, but there are pretty huge problems with the platform and I do think Sony needs to respond quickly before the rest of the industry sinks it.  The "PSP revival" this past 2nd half went disasterously for them, I don't think PSP can survive another year like 2009 and I doubt most publishers and retailers will stick around if it does.

 

Burning Typhoon said:
So.. the Wii has the same problem.. It sells well, but, software is another story... Maybe Nintendo should take this advice too.... for the long run...

Holy crap.. I just noticed this came from IGN... Wow... I don't like those guys anymore, that did it... They re-designed their site to look like crap, and now they post ignorant articles. I'd noticed it a few times before, but, this is enough...

There's no reason to cancel the PSP when it's making PROFIT. Sony just better make the next PSP(2) as hard to hack as a PS3, and give it mini blu-ray discs with no plastic casing around it. Also, the N2000 series should be slightly redesigned, and have a larger screen, smaller screens are never better.

PSP did well against Nintendo, it didn't fail like all of SEGA's tries.. Next generation, PSP will do the Nintendo like 360 did to PS3. Big corporations learn from their mistakes, that's how they survive.

Wii software sales are amazing, especially considering it's bundled with a pack in in almost all markets.  It's moved more software than any other console this generation, and what, like four times as much as PSP has... it's a laughably incomparable situation.

Also, Game Gear (Sega's one legitimate attempt at Nintendo's handheld crown) managed 20-25% marketshare during it's active lifespan.  Not quite up there with PSP's 30-35%, but not all that far behind and certainly not a "failure" historically.  This revisionist history of PSP being the only decent handheld competitor has to stop, they weren't the first and they won't be the last.  If anything, the media seems to be lending more credence to iPhone/iPod touch as the strongest handheld Nintendo competitor.

 

nitekrawler1285 said:

The one region where their development studios focus on the system it is a success.  They also advertise games there.  Paying studios to make PSP games would also be cheaper as well.  

I'd have to disagree.  The vast bulk of Sony's interesting PSP content seems to be coming from America and Europe, if anything it's their Japanese studios that are overlooking it.  Patapon and Loco Roco were awesome, but besides that it's been pretty dry.

Also, PSP saw a pretty massive tumble in Japan this year, the worst decline of any platform.  It basically went from nearly selling on par with DS in 2008 to nearly selling on par with Wii in 2009 (which itself had a huge drop).  And in software sales, it's well behind Wii even in Japan.

I think you are crazy.  Especially with MH on the eastern side.  Even if it is selling less than it was its not costing any per consumer purchase.



leo-j on 11 January 2010
NoCtiS_NoX said:
Author just ignored Japan oh my!!!? USA isn't the world, for crying out loud.

gametrailers, joystiq, gamespot,  and at times even kotaku focus solely on the U.S when it comes to sales.

They barely ever mention chart track, or Famitsu/media create.

 

Especially gametrailers, they only ever mention NPD sales.



 

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jarrod on 11 January 2010
nitekrawler1285 said:

I think you are crazy.  Especially with MH on the eastern side.  Even if it is selling less than it was its not costing any per consumer purchase.

Eh, Sony doesn't make Monster Hunter.  I'm not crazy, you just lack reading comprehension.



nitekrawler1285 on 11 January 2010
jarrod said:
nitekrawler1285 said:

I think you are crazy.  Especially with MH on the eastern side.  Even if it is selling less than it was its not costing any per consumer purchase.

Eh, Sony doesn't make Monster Hunter.  I'm not crazy, you just lack reading comprehension.

Old mascots who haven't been good since they were developed by their orignial developers and ports of PS3 games that people already bought isn't what i would call creating interests even if we are just talking about Sony PSP titles.



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jarrod on 11 January 2010
nitekrawler1285 said:
jarrod said:
nitekrawler1285 said:

I think you are crazy.  Especially with MH on the eastern side.  Even if it is selling less than it was its not costing any per consumer purchase.

Eh, Sony doesn't make Monster Hunter.  I'm not crazy, you just lack reading comprehension.

Old mascots who haven't been good since they were developed by their orignial developers and ports of PS3 games that people already bought isn't what i would call creating interests even if we are just talking about Sony PSP titles.

Disagreed. Stuff like Wipeout, God of War, MLB, R&C, etc all made the jump better than anything from the Japan Studio.  Gran Turismo included.

Hots Shots did okay though, but hasn't progressed as far as I'd have liked.  They should've copied Camelot wholesale and made them Golf RPGs on the handheld side.

 

Honestly though, considering how strong it is in their market, the lack of real dedicated development for PSP from Japan Studio (and partners) is shameful.  PSP's a success in the region largely despite Sony's own software efforts, not because of them.  What really drove PSP there was Capcom/MH.



Euphoria14 on 11 January 2010

Death of the UMD? I didn't know that PSP-3000 didn't use UMD anymore. O_o

Sony should pretty much give up on the handheld market because it isn't selling as well?

Jeez, makes me wonder why Nintendo kept going on or why Microsoft took another shot.


What a poor article.



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dharh on 11 January 2010
deathgod33 said:
raygun said:
Well, they only sold 500,000 of them LAST WEEK ALONE, and there's 55 million of them sold SO FAR, why in the hell would someone think it's a failure?


DS sales completely rape them. and besides, i think we can all agree that Nintendo makes the best handhelds and that job should remain solely with them.

Absolutely not. Having only one portable gaming device on the market is not good for the consumer or the developer in any way. There are things the PSP does far better than the DS does. I can play FFVII and FFVIII on my PSP, that alone makes it better than the DS.



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jarrod on 11 January 2010
dharh said:
deathgod33 said:
raygun said:
Well, they only sold 500,000 of them LAST WEEK ALONE, and there's 55 million of them sold SO FAR, why in the hell would someone think it's a failure?


DS sales completely rape them. and besides, i think we can all agree that Nintendo makes the best handhelds and that job should remain solely with them.

Absolutely not. Having only one portable gaming device on the market is not good for the consumer or the developer in any way. There are things the PSP does far better than the DS does. I can play FFVII and FFVIII on my PSP, that alone makes it better than the DS.

In fairness, DS is perfectly capable of running games like FFVII and FFVIII.  If PSP didn't exist, maybe we'd have gotten new DS ports/localizations of them?



kojero on 11 January 2010

Oh, let's not forget to look at the numbers for PS2... it still sells today, and it's been in the market for over 10 years now. For you Nintendo fanboys, sales figures for DS is not there yet.

And it's not really a competition between Nintendo or Sony. Nitendo is targeting females with the DS and younger and casual gamers on the Wii, because they know hard core gamers are for Xbox360 or PS3. A comparison between the three would be like comparing Bottled Water to the rivalry between Pepsi and Coke.