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noname2200 said:
Sephiroth357 said:
Blood_Tears said:
Mummelmann said:
I don't even know what to say...


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Its like the stock market crashed in here



 

 

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DaBuddahN said:
I love the numbers that are being pulled here? A 3 million unit gap? Can you add and subtract? 39 - 36.77 = 2.33mil. This is no where near 3 mil. Also, taking into account VGC has yet to include data from Japan and NA for the last week, this number will be around 2mil. 2 mil units on shelves post-holiday season? Why not? Think about this... Maybe MS thought they would sell more than they did, and that why there are around 2mil units on shelves.. -__- Anyways, people here have put forth many reasons why you are wrong, so please, just shut it.


it is over 39 million, why you gotta say 39 million right on the dot like that? i read the financial report- i own microsoft stock



Halo_Reach said:
DaBuddahN said:
I love the numbers that are being pulled here? A 3 million unit gap? Can you add and subtract? 39 - 36.77 = 2.33mil. This is no where near 3 mil. Also, taking into account VGC has yet to include data from Japan and NA for the last week, this number will be around 2mil. 2 mil units on shelves post-holiday season? Why not? Think about this... Maybe MS thought they would sell more than they did, and that why there are around 2mil units on shelves.. -__- Anyways, people here have put forth many reasons why you are wrong, so please, just shut it.


it is over 39 million, why you gotta say 39 million right on the dot like that? i read the financial report- i own microsoft stock

honestly dude 12 pages later and it seems you're blocking every single statement given to you. It's as if you put on a helmet that specificly blocks anything someone says something against changing the numbers. I suggest going back and actually thoroughly reading the comments.

 

Now if you excuse me I'm going back to the consession stand....popcorn ran out and a drink sounds rather nice.



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Halo_Reach said:
DaBuddahN said:
I love the numbers that are being pulled here? A 3 million unit gap? Can you add and subtract? 39 - 36.77 = 2.33mil. This is no where near 3 mil. Also, taking into account VGC has yet to include data from Japan and NA for the last week, this number will be around 2mil. 2 mil units on shelves post-holiday season? Why not? Think about this... Maybe MS thought they would sell more than they did, and that why there are around 2mil units on shelves.. -__- Anyways, people here have put forth many reasons why you are wrong, so please, just shut it.


it is over 39 million, why you gotta say 39 million right on the dot like that? i read the financial report- i own microsoft stock

ok now im starting to think your just joking.. and being a deuche bag on purpose.. are you flaming on purpose? this thread should get locked!



I BET NATHAN DRAKE CAN KICK SAM FISHERS ASS!

Halo_Reach said:
DaBuddahN said:
I love the numbers that are being pulled here? A 3 million unit gap? Can you add and subtract? 39 - 36.77 = 2.33mil. This is no where near 3 mil. Also, taking into account VGC has yet to include data from Japan and NA for the last week, this number will be around 2mil. 2 mil units on shelves post-holiday season? Why not? Think about this... Maybe MS thought they would sell more than they did, and that why there are around 2mil units on shelves.. -__- Anyways, people here have put forth many reasons why you are wrong, so please, just shut it.


it is over 39 million, why you gotta say 39 million right on the dot like that? i read the financial report- i own microsoft stock

Over 39 million can mean 39,000,001. See what I did there? If there are adjustments to be made, there will be adjustments. Since I've been here VGC has been within NPD safety zones, so that gives you a good idea how accurate VGC. Also, whenever VGC has undertracked, they've adjusted, so it's useless to come here accusing VGC of purposely undertracking the 360. -__- I mean really, don't be such a fanboy. 

AND REMEMBER!!!!!

- Many tracking organizations leave the smaller markets out, ie markets smaller than Japan! So there are units there as well not counted by VGC NOR NPD, NOR Media create, etc, etc. This means there not only might be more 360 out there sold to consumers, but more Wii's and more PS3's.

But I personally believe, until I hear from a credible source, not just your whining, that there are around 2mil 360's flooding the channel, it's not like MS hasn't done this before with other devices it's handled. 



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mega-chris said:
Halo_Reach said:
DaBuddahN said:
I love the numbers that are being pulled here? A 3 million unit gap? Can you add and subtract? 39 - 36.77 = 2.33mil. This is no where near 3 mil. Also, taking into account VGC has yet to include data from Japan and NA for the last week, this number will be around 2mil. 2 mil units on shelves post-holiday season? Why not? Think about this... Maybe MS thought they would sell more than they did, and that why there are around 2mil units on shelves.. -__- Anyways, people here have put forth many reasons why you are wrong, so please, just shut it.


it is over 39 million, why you gotta say 39 million right on the dot like that? i read the financial report- i own microsoft stock

ok now im starting to think your just joking.. and being a deuche bag on purpose.. are you flaming on purpose? this thread should get locked!

You misspelled douchebag.



dhummel said:
mega-chris said:
Halo_Reach said:
DaBuddahN said:
I love the numbers that are being pulled here? A 3 million unit gap? Can you add and subtract? 39 - 36.77 = 2.33mil. This is no where near 3 mil. Also, taking into account VGC has yet to include data from Japan and NA for the last week, this number will be around 2mil. 2 mil units on shelves post-holiday season? Why not? Think about this... Maybe MS thought they would sell more than they did, and that why there are around 2mil units on shelves.. -__- Anyways, people here have put forth many reasons why you are wrong, so please, just shut it.


it is over 39 million, why you gotta say 39 million right on the dot like that? i read the financial report- i own microsoft stock

ok now im starting to think your just joking.. and being a deuche bag on purpose.. are you flaming on purpose? this thread should get locked!

You misspelled douchebag.

remindes me of this...

http://www.db.com/index_e.htm



I live for the burn...and the sting of pleasure...
I live for the sword, the steel, and the gun...

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algorith said:

 The technology is there, it can be done. However we've seen it's not done on a universal basis. I've worked as an auditor for 8 months and we're left using inventory and look at any other numbers for sales with suspicion. Retailers use their own bar codes and their own tracking and that is private to them. It could be done 100% correctly if retailers agree to use the technology and collaborate with manufacturers but so far it's not being done. Michael Pachter has also stated that Sony and MS have referred him to NPD when he's contacted these companies for those numbers, he goes on to state that these companies also use NPD to estimate retail sales (it's in a Bonus Round video at gametrailers.com). 

 You could do some research and ask these companies what the exact numbers are, it's easier if you're a stockholder. I'm fairly certain, they'll either give you an estimate or refer to another source. I've seen the technology and it works but I've seen business not doing it also, so yes I'll leave it at that. Cheers. 

It's not universal, but SIRAS's retail partner list is extensive:

Participating Retailers

U.S.A.
CANADA
Best Buy Best Buy Canada
Bestbuy.com Bestbuy.ca
EB / Gamestop Future Shop Canada
Fred Meyer Futureshop.ca
Fry's Electronics EB Canada
Game Crazy Toys 'R' Us Canada
K-Mart Walmart Canada
Meijer Zellers
Nintendo  
Nintendo World  
Sam's Club  
Sears  
Shopko  
Target  
Toys 'R' Us  
Toysrus.com  
Walmart  
Walmart.com  

I'd say this covers the vast majority of the game-selling market, and allows them to keep proper track of the vast, vast majority of console sales - Nintendo could use their own numbers instead of NPD's, if they cared to



Halo_Reach said:

pretty simple question, waits for the correction to the 360 total and seeing a 1.4 million adjustmant upward for the undertracking in others and U.S.- i just wanna know why it was so under tracked? is it because the internet atmosphere has a lot of 360 haters and pro sony fanboys?

Okay, chief.

Since you know the entire Internet inside out. Lets stop making ridiculous claims without back up. Looking at your posts in this thread, you're calling out sony fanboys left and right, because people disagree with you/asking for evidence on your silly claims.

Your name alone sums you up for me.

Have a nice day.



Smashed said:
Halo_Reach said:

pretty simple question, waits for the correction to the 360 total and seeing a 1.4 million adjustmant upward for the undertracking in others and U.S.- i just wanna know why it was so under tracked? is it because the internet atmosphere has a lot of 360 haters and pro sony fanboys?

Okay, chief.

Since you know the entire Internet inside out. Lets stop making ridiculous claims without back up. Looking at your posts in this thread, you're calling out sony fanboys left and right, because people disagree with you/asking for evidence on your silly claims.

Your name alone sums you up for me.

Have a nice day.

pssst....you forgot the Master.  He might get angry if you don't say his full name.



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