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demonfox13 on 09 January 2010
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
BladeOfGod said:
nordlead said:
morenoingrato said:
what mature games from nintendo?
they've never done 1

Nintendo has published a handful, and owns the rights to Eternal Darkness' Sanity Effect (I'm not sure if they actually own the entire IP or not though). Sort of like Next Level Games developing Punch-Out!! it is still a Nintendo game.

yes, but they never DEVELOPED a single one

And...do they have to?

Nintendo has said since day one on the NES they make games for 'all ages'.  It seems to have gotten them pretty far.  I can't think of one company who makes strictly M rated games who has gotten to the level of Nintendo.  The biggest companies out there that I can think of that focuses on M rated games are Blizzard and Rockstar, and they don't even come close to Nintendo.

Nintendo has titles like Metroid, Fire Emblem and etc, all Teen.  And you know what, many people who like the 'M' games tend to like these games as well.  They're doing just fine.

Wow, Blizzard has been VERY successful with WoW alone. Then throw in the Diablo2 craze (many still play it today). They don't even have a console but just develop their games that have been extemely successful. I would go as far as saying that warcraft and starcraft and to a lesser extent diablo all rival Mario, Zelda and Metriod. Starcraft2 is pretty much the most anticipated game out there PERIOD along with Diablo3. Just ask around anyone that owns even a mediocre PC how badly they have been waiting for both those games. The story and replayability in Blizzard's games have been second to none. I know I will put my PS3 on hold the moment SC2 and D3 come out along with many others.



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demonfox13 on 09 January 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

That wasn't a test for the SC series. That was a test for hack & slash games. They could have ported III to the Wii with motion controls and that would have been a proper test for the actual series.

And why did the Wii need to be tested for that but not the HD systems? It was just an excuse.

Obviously it was a test to see how much of their fanbase went to the Wii.  Whether it sold by merit or by fanbase, either would have been successful but it did neither.


A watered-down spinoff is not going to move the fanbase. Not even Nintendo would test Super Mario fans with Mario Kart.

Funny enough Nintendo could get away with having a watered-down spinoff with Mario and it would still achieve a level of success. The Mario name is THAT strong.



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LordTheNightKnight on 09 January 2010

"Funny enough Nintendo could get away with having a watered-down spinoff with Mario and it would still achieve a level of success. The Mario name is THAT strong."

The games being good don't hurt. From most accounts, that isn't the case with SCL. And I noted elsewhere, SCL was made in lieu of a proper SC game, while the Mario spinoffs are their own games.



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Kenryoku_Maxis on 09 January 2010
demonfox13 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
BladeOfGod said:
nordlead said:
morenoingrato said:
what mature games from nintendo?
they've never done 1

Nintendo has published a handful, and owns the rights to Eternal Darkness' Sanity Effect (I'm not sure if they actually own the entire IP or not though). Sort of like Next Level Games developing Punch-Out!! it is still a Nintendo game.

yes, but they never DEVELOPED a single one

And...do they have to?

Nintendo has said since day one on the NES they make games for 'all ages'.  It seems to have gotten them pretty far.  I can't think of one company who makes strictly M rated games who has gotten to the level of Nintendo.  The biggest companies out there that I can think of that focuses on M rated games are Blizzard and Rockstar, and they don't even come close to Nintendo.

Nintendo has titles like Metroid, Fire Emblem and etc, all Teen.  And you know what, many people who like the 'M' games tend to like these games as well.  They're doing just fine.

Wow, Blizzard has been VERY successful with WoW alone. Then throw in the Diablo2 craze (many still play it today). They don't even have a console but just develop their games that have been extemely successful. I would go as far as saying that warcraft and starcraft and to a lesser extent diablo all rival Mario, Zelda and Metriod. Starcraft2 is pretty much the most anticipated game out there PERIOD along with Diablo3. Just ask around anyone that owns even a mediocre PC how badly they have been waiting for both those games. The story and replayability in Blizzard's games have been second to none. I know I will put my PS3 on hold the moment SC2 and D3 come out along with many others.

No matter how you slice it, two games do not rival Mario, Zelda or Metroid.  Diablo III and Scarcraft II, no matter how popular or hyped, are not going to overthrow the popularity and sales of all the upcoming Mario, Zelda and Metroid games coming out.  And that was the point of my comment.  While I love Blizzard games just as much as the next guy (Diablo III is one of my top 3 most anticipated games), they just cannot match Nintendo in the amount of games produced or the popularity scale.  With just one release cycle of Pokemon alone, they can pretty much cancel out the sales of any Blizzard title.  And with all their accumulated titles (such as Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Fire Emblem, Star Fox, F-Zero, Punch Out, Pikmin, etc), they pretty much dominate most of the gaming companies out there and cover most peoples interest.

A few 'purists' will stick to hating Nintendo on principle or what have you.  But generally speaking, almost everyone likes a few or even most Nintendo series.  And that's why they're so successful.



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nordlead on 10 January 2010
BladeOfGod said:
nordlead said:
morenoingrato said:
what mature games from nintendo?
they've never done 1

Nintendo has published a handful, and owns the rights to Eternal Darkness' Sanity Effect (I'm not sure if they actually own the entire IP or not though). Sort of like Next Level Games developing Punch-Out!! it is still a Nintendo game.

yes, but they never DEVELOPED a single one

who cares? (also pointed out to be wrong) Paying someone else to do it, or paying yourself to do it doesn't make too much of a difference to me.




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griffinA on 10 January 2010
demonfox13 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
BladeOfGod said:
nordlead said:
morenoingrato said:
what mature games from nintendo?
they've never done 1

Nintendo has published a handful, and owns the rights to Eternal Darkness' Sanity Effect (I'm not sure if they actually own the entire IP or not though). Sort of like Next Level Games developing Punch-Out!! it is still a Nintendo game.

yes, but they never DEVELOPED a single one

And...do they have to?

Nintendo has said since day one on the NES they make games for 'all ages'.  It seems to have gotten them pretty far.  I can't think of one company who makes strictly M rated games who has gotten to the level of Nintendo.  The biggest companies out there that I can think of that focuses on M rated games are Blizzard and Rockstar, and they don't even come close to Nintendo.

Nintendo has titles like Metroid, Fire Emblem and etc, all Teen.  And you know what, many people who like the 'M' games tend to like these games as well.  They're doing just fine.

Wow, Blizzard has been VERY successful with WoW alone. Then throw in the Diablo2 craze (many still play it today). They don't even have a console but just develop their games that have been extemely successful. I would go as far as saying that warcraft and starcraft and to a lesser extent diablo all rival Mario, Zelda and Metriod. Starcraft2 is pretty much the most anticipated game out there PERIOD along with Diablo3. Just ask around anyone that owns even a mediocre PC how badly they have been waiting for both those games. The story and replayability in Blizzard's games have been second to none. I know I will put my PS3 on hold the moment SC2 and D3 come out along with many others.

FYI, Starcraft, World of Warcraft, and Warcraft 3 are all rated T for Teen. Only Diablo is rated M. Diablo also has the lowest sales....hmm I wonder why?



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Chairman-Mao on 10 January 2010

I agree with Sega, Nintendo needs to start making a few mature games. I know Nintendo likes their family friendly image but they are never going to get 13-18 year old males buying their consoles if they have no hardcore/mature (whatever you want to call it) games. This is actually one of the two things keeping me from buying a Wii (the other being my budget).



Kenryoku_Maxis on 10 January 2010
Chairman-Mao said:
I agree with Sega, Nintendo needs to start making a few mature games. I know Nintendo likes their family friendly image but they are never going to get 13-18 year old males buying their consoles if they have no hardcore/mature (whatever you want to call it) games. This is actually one of the two things keeping me from buying a Wii (the other being my budget).

Hate to break it to you, but have you looked at the sales of consoles?  Plenty of '13-18 year old males' are buying a Wii.  And not just looking for 'mature rated content'.  Looking for games from a variety of fields, from Mario and Zelda to Metroid and Smash Bros and even Mario Kart and Pikmin.

Spend some time on this site and you'll even see how many 'hardcore HD console gamers' have one or two major Wii games they're highly anticipating.



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PhalanxCO on 10 January 2010

This is by far the dumbest generation ever.



BrandonM on 10 January 2010
PhalanxCO said:
This is by far the dumbest generation ever.

I will not disagree with this....



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