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Chairman-Mao on 07 January 2010
sabby_e17 said:
The gap will be 1 million by the end of 2010.

A 360 price cut WILL happen this year but thats the only thing holding PS3 back from from over taking the 360.

This guy has the right idea!

PS3 outsold the 360 by over 2 million units this year after being outsold every week up until September.

I wouldn't be shocked if PS3 outsold 360 every week this year with the exeption of maybe 2-3 weeks when 360 has a price drop, 1 week for Halo reach and maybe 1-2 weeks for NATAL.



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binary solo on 07 January 2010

Exactly when was the last time someone suggested PS3 could overtake Wii LTD?



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Carl on 07 January 2010
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^lack of profits, third place, certain failure of the wand (read disruption theory to understand why)

Take your pick carl

What do any of them have to do with how much PS3 will sell lifetime? Looks to me like your usual trolling...

Sales. Which are currently actually not inline with PS1, but above PS1... Which managed to sell over 100 Million units. Now, im not saying PS3 will hit the 100M milestone, but the future is indeed bright for the PS3. 

Yet to hit a mass market price and still yet to see colours or its biggest exclusive. Also room for another redesign... And with 3D becoming pretty big and popular, it has that in the bag too.



                            

Avinash_Tyagi on 07 January 2010

The reason PS3 caught up was because it matched the 360's price, if 360 price cuts, then it has price advantage and PS3 falls back behind like before



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

Carl on 07 January 2010
kirby007 said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
It doesn't seem likely that PS3 will catch up, especially with a PS4 coming in 2011 or 2012

The PS1 and PS2 both sold for 10 years +

Why wont PS3 continue to sell for upto 10 years? It is still curently in line with PS1 shipments/sales.

does it matter?

when the competitors release their new consoles everyone is see how things are.

it doesn't matter if it sells afterwards, it will still be seen as a loss

If it does overtake it, it probably wont matter... As neither will be 1st place.

But 2nd place, is 2nd place. Doesn't matter when it happens, it still happens...

As a wise bald headed man once said... "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning."



                            

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Carl on 07 January 2010
Avinash_Tyagi said:
The reason PS3 caught up was because it matched the 360's price, if 360 price cuts, then it has price advantage and PS3 falls back behind like before

Matched the 360's price?

When did the PS3 become $199?

360 already has a $100 price advantage.



                            

apollon on 07 January 2010

its obvious life expectancy of 360<ps3

xbox owners are wondering when the next xbox comes and gran turismo or god of war havent still released on ps3.

 



Avinash_Tyagi on 07 January 2010
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
^lack of profits, third place, certain failure of the wand (read disruption theory to understand why)

Take your pick carl

What do any of them have to do with how much PS3 will sell lifetime? Looks to me like your usual trolling...

Sales. Which are currently actually not inline with PS1, but above PS1... Which managed to sell over 100 Million units. Now, im not saying PS3 will hit the 100M milestone, but the future is indeed bright for the PS3.

Yet to hit a mass market price and still yet to see colours or its biggest exclusive. Also room for another redesign... And with 3D becoming pretty big and popular, it has that in the bag too.

Sorry Carl, but compare to PSP:

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=PSP&reg1=All&cons2=PS3&reg2=All&cons3=PSP&reg3=All&weeks=240

PSP is higher than PS3 and is around 55 million, so PS3 has probably less potential than PSP in a best case scenario, since its undertracking the PSP, but even more problematic is the 360 is its competitor, so it has to face the fact that if 360 price drops, PS3's sales will drop off, so it probably has even less potential than the PSP overall.

PS3 is also limited by the fact that when the PS4 is announced, PS3 sales will drop off, as people will be looking to the next gen, so PS3 does have limits on how much it will sell which are clearly visible, and its nowhere near the PS1

 

 



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

jlauro on 07 January 2010

The PS3 has Blu Ray for more storage, and also more CPU (but more difficult to fully utilize), such that it can handle 3D TVs with a firmware update and the 360 probably will not be able to handle that especially needing some of it's CPU to handle 3D motion controls. It will likely last at least a couple of years more than the 360, and so long term it is very likely to end up with more sales.

The real question will be if it can pass the 360 prior to the 360's replacement being released...



Avinash_Tyagi on 07 January 2010
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
The reason PS3 caught up was because it matched the 360's price, if 360 price cuts, then it has price advantage and PS3 falls back behind like before

Matched the 360's price?

When did the PS3 become $199?

360 already has a $100 price advantage.

Nope, sorry when consumers compare, they compare the elite to the PS3 they don't include the arcade, the PS3 currently matches the elite in price, so that gives it the advantage, but that advantage will be gone as soon as the 360 gains price advantage.



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)