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leo-j said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
leo-j said:
Its amazing how you expect a PS4, and a new XBOX by 2011..

are you that bored?

He's not that far off, once NATAL and Wand/Gem fail, they will rush their next consoles, 2012 is more likely than 2011, but it will be here soon.

Now I'd love to know were you bought your crystal ball

No crystal ball needed, just a quick read through this is all you need

http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Whats-Next-Theories-Innovation/dp/1591391857

 



 

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well seeing s how the xbox 360 has been out a year longer then the ps3. the ps3 has already caught up! party time!!!!!!!!!!!



I BET NATHAN DRAKE CAN KICK SAM FISHERS ASS!

The PS3 will pass the 360 six months after MS releases it's next console. I feel like I've said this before somewhere, lemme look. Bah, can't be arsed. . . (thanks for that one, UK guys)



Avinash_Tyagi said:
It doesn't seem likely that PS3 will catch up, especially with a PS4 coming in 2011 or 2012

If this happens, and Microsoft does the same, then this current generation is over, and the rest doesn't really matter regarding what is happening here.



Carl2291 said:
kirby007 said:
Carl2291 said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
It doesn't seem likely that PS3 will catch up, especially with a PS4 coming in 2011 or 2012

The PS1 and PS2 both sold for 10 years +

Why wont PS3 continue to sell for upto 10 years? It is still curently in line with PS1 shipments/sales.

does it matter?

when the competitors release their new consoles everyone is see how things are.

it doesn't matter if it sells afterwards, it will still be seen as a loss

If it does overtake it, it probably wont matter... As neither will be 1st place.

But 2nd place, is 2nd place. Doesn't matter when it happens, it still happens...

As a wise bald headed man once said... "It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning."

And when the next generation starts, then why does this current generation matter?  A wise old man would also comment that fanboys win nothing for the position their console of choice finishes in a sales, particularly when the following generation has already started. 

And in regards to this, the 360 getting to finish second is progress.  For the PS3, it is a loss to finish second, because the Playstation brand was the dominant brand last two generations.

 



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Sigh is this all you do when PS3 starts chopping down the lead of 360???? So wat if PS3 does overtake 360???you gonna hang your self?? geez....



@Rpruett
Very good post with excellent points. Though I feel you may have left out a couple.

Price Cuts: A lot of people believe that another price cut for the 360 will finish off the PS3's momentum, but I think they are sorely wrong. The PS3 is doing well right now on it's own price point and it's own merits. It has nothing to do with what MS has or hasn't done. As you can see by the charts, the 360 isn't doing horribly, but it is below the PS3.

Even if MS does a price cut, do you not think Sony will answer it? Of course they will. They have just started to see a real upturn in the sales of their product, they aren't going to let it go so easily. If anything MS will probably lower the price by $50 on the Elite around the launch of Natal later this year. However, by that time Sony will most likely have gotten production prices down to the point where they can lower the price by $30-$50, while still breaking even or having a small profit. This will completely take away any steam from MS's cut.

And for those of you who act as if the Arcade doesn't matter, why is it still on shelves? Don't act as if MS barely sells them, because if they did they would save money and stop producing them. To us gamers, the Arcade is a bare bones 360, but to "Average Joe" it's a cheap entrance into next gen gaming. Trust me, if not for the Arcade, MS would be selling even less hardware, and they know that.

Blu-ray: Some are so easy to dismiss it as "not needed," but it is here to stay. With the sales of HD TV's going up, so will the sales of Blu-ray. In fact, Blu-ray sales and rentals doubled last year, and it's only going to continue to go up. And the PS3 has one of the better Blu-ray players. As HD and Blu-ray becomes more and more mainstream, the PS3 is going to continue to be deemed the better value. And when this gen is over, I can imagine people picking up a $100-$150 PS3 for a gaming and Blu-ray playing system in the bedrooms and playrooms of many houses.

Speaking of Blu-ray, it's going to play an even bigger role next gen. With games getting even bigger, higher poly-models and most textures being HD, the space is going to be needed. And MS is either going to have to get on board, or face a backlash when their normal games come on 2 discs and large games come on 5-8.

One more thing people need to remember, this gen is truly like no other, so you can't just point out what happened last gen and that's what will happen this one. PS3's comeback pretty much slaps that notion in the face. While many were pointing to previous gens and previous months' sales, saying that the gap would just keep getting bigger and end up ~10 mil or more. Well, it's shrinking and most likely will continue to shrink.



Avinash_Tyagi said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Selling PS3, and profiting from it, years after PS4 is released: why should Sony abandon this part of its business strategy that with PS3 and PS2 clearly showed to work even in its darkest days?

Cause the PS1 and 2 were leading consoles that could survive gens and make a profit, while PS3 cannot

Can't it? 

Nope, PS3 has already lost hundreds of millions, so it won't ever make a profit

Try billions.  It's near $5 billion.

 

PS3 has already lost more money than PS2 made in it's lifetime.



Yeah... the flamebait thread has went on long enough...



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