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This is a "reload" of a threat created more than 2 years ago to see how accurate my predictions were.

 

People were throwing a lot of crap at me then  but look how things turned out.  The causes could be controversial at times but the results are clear. People try to "create sense based on a limited and often flawed information". There are many other variables which our "way of thinking" might forget/fail to include, either because there are just too many of them, or just people can't or don't want to see them.

Here are the facts that I had predicted and let's see how they turned out to be.

Fact 1 :  High Price Consoles never win!

Well, PS3 is not winning and 360 and Wii are selling more, right? Check!

PS3 got a price cut, went down the $300 treshold and started to gain market share. Check!

Fact 2 : Sony's Technical Specs are always vastly exaggerated and Claims Never Come True!

Well, it was the case with PS1 and PS2, and PS3 can barely compete with 360, and only several first party games can surpass the 360 after loooooooong periods of development. Check!

Even though technical superiority of the PS3 is getting more evident, it is almost non-existent among third parties and exclusive to first parties. Overall, the gap is way less than predicted. I don't think there is anybody buying PS3 because of technical superiority anymore (but because of exclusives, brand loyalty, bluray etc). Check!

Fact 3 : Always the Weakest Console wins!

This is not a reasoning, this is just a twist of fate, it happens to be so. And guess what? Wii is the weakest console and it is winning, by and large! Check!

Nothing has changed since, and the history is proving me right! Check!

Fact 4 : Sony is Notorious for the LENGHTY LOADING TIMES.

Unfortunately so.  And now what happens? They put "mandatory installation" to match the loading times of 360 or wii. The additional hard drive does not make it better than other machines. NXE on the other hand shortens the loading times of 360 considerably, making it faster than ps3 on equal terms. Check!

Same as above although loading is not so different than 360 this time, and occasionally better. Still check!

Fact 5 : PS3 has a greater speed as potential.

This potential is shown occasionally with games like Killzone, but not too often or drastic though (which is why it's "potential"). I'm still firm in my opinion that Xbox's superiority over ps2 was much greater than ps3 over 360. Check!

Same as above. Check!

Fact 6 : Xbox360 has More Memory and a Better Memory Structure.

No question about. Despite improvements on the ps3 side, this is still the case, will remain so. 360 simply has more memory and better memory architecture as admitted by many firms. Check!

The Memory limitation remains one of the greatest handicup in front of firms not being able to show off the real PS3 potential. Check!

Fact 7 : You cant win globally if you fail in either of those two markets, Japan and America.

This is why 360 is not winning (and can't possibly win) this generation. Check!

It's even more obvious now that 360 is losing in Europe as well. Check!

Fact 8 : Wii is picking up and gonna take the lead soon.

That is what exactly happened! Check!

Although it slowed down and lost the initial momentum, Wii shows no signs of losing the lead. Check!

Fact 9 :  PS3 sales are far from building a momentum.

Yes, there is some sort of increase in sales but a momentum needs more than this. PS3 was surpassed by both other consoles in all 3 years now, so we can't talk much about momentum! Check!

This is only part I'm kind of proven wrong as of now. However, I was intentionally ruling out the price reduction possibility, and as I always stated, a reduction in PS3 should have been expected to turn the tides up for Sony. Still, the game is not over, and PS3 is far from catching wii and taking the lead, and there is the Natal and other 360 moves...

 

Opinions please!



Playstation 5 vs XBox Series Market Share Estimates

Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

Sales Estimations for 8th Generation Consoles

Next Gen Consoles Impressions and Estimates

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I agree with most of them, although you did underestimate a certain console, but honestly who could have predicted PS3 would have been doing as well as it is now after it was seemingly a lost cause back in 06-mid 08



2010 Hardware Sales Predictions

Wii: 20m- Sales will drop, but not by much.

PS3: 13.5m- It sold 12m in 2009, its only common sense it will sell more this year.

Xbox 360: 11m- It sold 11m in 2008 and 2009, I think it will sell the same.

My Fanboy Speech...

Why do you have to make excuses to defend a product that you purchased, but that's the only connection you have to it, you don't make it, you don't lose or gain money on it. I don't see where all of the defensiveness comes in, there is no reason for you or anybody else to feel obligated to defend it. Now I would understand if one of you were a developer for the product and you slaved over said product only to hear somebody call it stupid or a piece of junk. But none of you developed it, none of you are mature enough to realize that. Choosing a product all comes down to preference, you chose said product because it is best for you. Simple as that!

What do you plan to accomplish with this thread?



4 ≈ One

This will result in a huge fanboy war. You have been warned.



Dgc1808 said:
What do you plan to accomplish with this thread?

 

I am not planning to accomplish something, just want to show the accuracy of my predictions. And I hate it when people take it wrong and try to make a fight out of it. I am not here to bash a console for no reason, I love the video games world, the discussions surrounding it, as long as they are not blind and politic. I just like saying, "you see, I was right" because of my reasonable and unbiased assumptions :D



Playstation 5 vs XBox Series Market Share Estimates

Regional Analysis  (only MS and Sony Consoles)
Europe     => XB1 : 23-24 % vs PS4 : 76-77%
N. America => XB1 :  49-52% vs PS4 : 48-51%
Global     => XB1 :  32-34% vs PS4 : 66-68%

Sales Estimations for 8th Generation Consoles

Next Gen Consoles Impressions and Estimates

Around the Network

I'm sure i have a cookie around here somewhere...just gimme a minute



marketwise...europe is becoming more important and japan more irrelevant.



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freedquaker said:

Fact 1 :  High Price Consoles never win!

Well, PS3 is not winning and 360 and Wii are selling more, right? Check! Check = Money, yes? 

PS3 got a price cut, went down the $300 treshold and started to gain market share. Check! <I think I love you

Fact 2 : Sony's Technical Specs are always vastly exaggerated and Claims Never Come True!

Well, it was the case with PS1 and PS2, and PS3 can barely compete with 360, and only several first party games can surpass the 360 after loooooooong (only two years Uncharted 2!!! WOOT) periods of development. Check! Ha, this is gonna be fun, CHECK CHECK CHECK :D

Even though technical superiority of the PS3 is getting more evident, it is almost non-existent among third parties and exclusive to first parties. Overall, the gap is way less than predicted. I don't think there is anybody buying PS3 because of technical superiority anymore (but because of exclusives, brand loyalty, bluray etc). Check! Hmm, this checks are getting annoying... but whatever right?

Fact 3 : Always the Weakest Console wins!

This is not a reasoning, this is just a twist of fate, it happens to be so. And guess what? Wii is the weakest console and it is winning, by and large! Check!  Also, stop the checks please...

Nothing has changed since, and the history is proving me right! Check!  AND STOP THE CHECKS GODDAMNIT!!!

Fact 4 : Sony is Notorious for the LENGHTY LOADING TIMES.

Unfortunately so.  And now what happens? They put "mandatory installation" to match the loading times of 360 or wii. The additional hard drive does not make it better than other machines. NXE on the other hand shortens the loading times of 360 considerably, making it faster than ps3 on equal terms. Check! >:(

Same as above although loading is not so different than 360 this time, and occasionally better. Still check! (FUCK THE CHECKS!!! No more checks )

Fact 5 : PS3 has a greater speed as potential. LOLWUT?

This potential is shown occasionally with games like Killzone, but not too often or drastic though (which is why it's "potential"). I'm still firm in my opinion that Xbox's superiority over ps2 was much greater than ps3 over 360. Check! (goes to get gun)

Same as above. Check! Okay, you get THIS check, but that's it buster

Fact 6 : Xbox360 has More Memory and a Better Memory Structure.

No question about. Despite improvements on the ps3 side, this is still the case, will remain so. 360 simply has more memory and better memory architecture as admitted by many firms. Check! PLEASE STOP!!!

The Memory limitation remains one of the greatest handicup in front of firms not being able to show off the real PS3 potential. HA, all checks deleted beyond this point

Fact 7 : You cant win globally if you fail in either of those two markets, Japan and America. Do you notice the 3 colors in use here? RED WHITE AND PURPLE!!! WOOT, AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!!!!

This is why 360 is not winning (and can't possibly win) this generation. HA, NO CHECK!!!

It's even more obvious now that 360 is losing in Europe as well. heck!

Fact 8 : Wii is picking up and gonna take the lead soon.

That is what exactly happened! Wii would like to talk

Although it slowed down and lost the initial momentum, Wii shows no signs of losing the lead. Anti-matter could delete all of the Wii's sales... just saying...

Fact 9 :  PS3 sales are far from building a momentum.

Yes, there is some sort of increase in sales but a momentum needs more than this. PS3 was surpassed by both other consoles in all 3 years now, so we can't talk much about momentum! You just haven't taken enough LSD to see the truth yet man

This is only part I'm kind of proven wrong as of now. However, I was intentionally ruling out the price reduction possibility, and as I always stated, a reduction in PS3 should have been expected to turn the tides up for Sony. Still, the game is not over, and PS3 is far from catching wii and taking the lead, and there is the Natal and other 360 moves... Check!

 

 



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That's all I could read



I would say TL;DR, but I did read it, and it was not an enjoyable read. Bland boring and accomplishes nothing. Some real advice, quit seeking acknowledgement online and go chill with friends if you have any.