You have music ahead of graphics? Wow

I'd say

1. Gameplay
2. Graphics
3. Controls
4. Story



1,000,000. Sound

he did that because graphics dont favour the wii. it doesnt take a proffesor to find that out

I doubt there's such thing as the mainstream. I'd rather say that there are lots of intersecting and nesting submarkets. The Wii did extremely well catering to old times' Nintendo gamers and to a wider, even less formed market that was intimidated by all games but found for example WiiSports and WiiFit accessible. It's not a niche, it's an extremely big submarket. It's also not a dominating one, though, as marketshares show: when all is said and done, the Wii and its low-entry-barrier gaming haven't dwarfed the competition.

The expansion thing happened in the past: when the PS1 boomed, I saw people who I never thought would get a console controller in their hands buy one to play football games. When the GTA phenomenon began, it was by expanding into a market of teenage casual gamers who would never think a game could be "cool" -save maybe carmageddon. Back then, it was a different kind of barrier that was broken down, something relating to the stigma of console gaming being only for little kids, maybe.

At the same time, as you said, many gamers were left behind. But it has nothing to do with the "graphical arms race". Most of them were left behind by gaming that required more than a joystick and a single button, or by games that required memorizing combos, or that required an excessively long training time.

I very much doubt there's any gamer that was perfectly comfortable with gaming in the PS2 era, but found him/herself baffled by nowadays' games. Uncharted 2 is no more complex or reliant on graphics than RE4 for example, epitomizing as it might be of the tech focus and the "graphical arms race"

It's -instead- an old problem, tracing back to the NES vs home computers times. I'm glad Nintendo is catering for those users who need different games from where most of the developers were going, but it isn't the magic bullet to solve all of the industry's problems. On the contrary, I suspect that with things like WiiFit, WiiSports, Brain Training we're very near to the most basic baseline when it comes to accessibility. Once everybody taps into that long neglected market, growth will have to happen in different directions again.

Wii games don't typically make for great trailers

This is just the way of things, my brothers

I will say that to their credit their reviews are generally spot on. I particularly was in agreeance with them 100% on their review of Metroid Prime 3.

I understood what he was saying. I was just commenting on the sound thing

lol @ TC's argument. GOTY goes to best game that year not "classic game to be". How on earth can we tell whats gonna be a classic after they just released anyway?

Secondly, who's to say only ninty makes classics. The classics I've played in my own gaming pastime are PE2, FF7,8,10,12, Xenogears, Legend of Dragoon, etc. These are games I still revisit even in the ps3 era thats why I personally think ps1 had the most classics. I haven't replayed SMB since the nes era ended and don't think I ever will. You can't just assume that your sentiments are right and everyone should follow suit.

You haven't played the other GOTY nominations, how do you know they aren't better than NSMBW? Oh I get it....you just assumed that HD games were "no fun" right? I've put 39 days into kz2...more time than I spent playing other games this year combined and more time than my personal classics combined so its my GOTY (I also doubt you've played any of your supposed "classics" that much so its defo more replayable than them). However, I won't be creating any threads complaining about why others don't feel the same way. Perhaps you could benefit from my example.

Psh, you think GT is bad? Try the people over at Gamepro, GT will look like raving Nintendo fanboys by comparison.

Even as a Wii fanboy, I really don't think Wii's 2009 offering had anything that deserved to be Game of the Year. Bite me.

they are part of viacom that it's in bed with microsoft.

and it's not visuals.

they even give uncharted 2 the GOTY and it's the most stunning game this year