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Akvod on 05 January 2010
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:

Watching the latest leaked vids and watching different forums and people's individuals reactions to the latest gameplay movies, i can't help but say that my expectations for the game has been lowered.

Granted, i was very skeptical about the game at first and although i am now a tad bit on the optimistic side, i can't help but say that critical reception for this game will be mixed (mixed meaning low 80s, high 70s) with a 10 on graphics, and a mere 7 for gameplay, and maybe an 8 for the "innovation" part. I would like to be proven wrong, but I think the graphics will be one major thing that will save this game from mediocrity at worst, and at best, it will carve out a niche audience for this movie-game fusion genre (which will include me).  =]

First of all Heavy Rain is not a video game. It was never meant to be a video game and it never will be. The dev said himself it isn't a videogame and the title was inspired by his viewing of Pixars 'Up' with his children and wanted to make a movie title for mature adults that people in their 40's like himself can view without gameplay complications and have an effect on the lives of main protagonists. This IS an interactive mature title that people over the age of 40 should be attracted to, which is why he isn't expecting it to sell amazingly well. He said it was a game, but I knew better and he proved me right when he said it is longer a game. When he told me about his inspiration it sealed the deal.

really? its not a video game? why would they market it as not a video game anyway? if its strictly an interactive movie, it will never sell at 60 dollars. i personally hope the game will play like a video game even if its really different.

Did you see what I wrote about what the dev Cage said?  He said it is no longer a video game and I totally agree with him as well on that. Actually I never thought it was a video game. Everything is predetermined, you just have to put in the button command and save your characters life while the story unfolds or die and move on to the next player. It's that simple. This will probably be the fastest title i'll ever finish because of what it is. In that respect, is it worth 60 dollars? I dunno....thats up to you, but I am not buying it. It's not expected to sell very well anyway.

I think you are completely misunderstood on what David Cage is saying.Yes, he has said this really isn't a game. No, the story won't paly out that clear cut. Every game is about button commands so I don't get that comment, at all. The game isn't "that simple" and I'd suggest further research before speaking about it.

In many ways HEAVY RAIN will be similar to Mass Effect, you speak to people and choose different paths you want to take. Difference with HEAVY RAIN, there are MANY different outcomes. David Cage has expressed this time and time again.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_games

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_games#Sub-genres

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_fiction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_adventure_game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel

 

You're welcome CGI



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joeorc on 05 January 2010
CGI-Quality said:
ShadowSoldier said:
CGI-Quality is gonna kill you guys for dissing his game.....Just saying

Nope, not at all. I can't really be mad at someone who has yet to play the game and claim it'll be "boring, lame, full of QTEs only", etc.....

At this juncture, the game is getting a lot of positive feedback for the most part, which is all really irrelevant to me, as I would buy the game regardless. I know this game won't be for everyone, as no game is, but I expect to be fully immersed. The latest vids, which I refuse to watch, just let me know that the time is almost here.

In other words, whoever doesn't like it, doesn't have to, I won't lose a wink of sleep. But I know that once it's released, I probably won't be posting as much for a good month or so.

I am also resisting the urge to view more of the video's, I am also waiting for this game myself, I loved IP: an you are right on the money, this type of game is not everyone's cup of tea, the same as any other game type it depends on the person.

I am excited to play their new game of HEAVY RAIN due to it combines the best of my hobby's Game's an Movies with from what i can tell so far an exciting storyline for the game, the graphic's are just a bonus, they look fantastic in my opinion for a game.

such has been this generation, all the game console's have had such great game's i have not had enough time to try or play the majority of them, that's the main problem, not enough time, but such as life

Im just glad that there is such great game's this generation, I have not been bored once, the same as last generation, I was not bored then more than enough game's to play, hell I still have some great game's from the last couple of years that I still need to play, I collect RPG's and While I collect them, I have more RPG's in my collection that I still need to play

just not enough time I GUESS.

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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 January 2010
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:

Watching the latest leaked vids and watching different forums and people's individuals reactions to the latest gameplay movies, i can't help but say that my expectations for the game has been lowered.

Granted, i was very skeptical about the game at first and although i am now a tad bit on the optimistic side, i can't help but say that critical reception for this game will be mixed (mixed meaning low 80s, high 70s) with a 10 on graphics, and a mere 7 for gameplay, and maybe an 8 for the "innovation" part. I would like to be proven wrong, but I think the graphics will be one major thing that will save this game from mediocrity at worst, and at best, it will carve out a niche audience for this movie-game fusion genre (which will include me).  =]

First of all Heavy Rain is not a video game. It was never meant to be a video game and it never will be. The dev said himself it isn't a videogame and the title was inspired by his viewing of Pixars 'Up' with his children and wanted to make a movie title for mature adults that people in their 40's like himself can view without gameplay complications and have an effect on the lives of main protagonists. This IS an interactive mature title that people over the age of 40 should be attracted to, which is why he isn't expecting it to sell amazingly well. He said it was a game, but I knew better and he proved me right when he said it is longer a game. When he told me about his inspiration it sealed the deal.

really? its not a video game? why would they market it as not a video game anyway? if its strictly an interactive movie, it will never sell at 60 dollars. i personally hope the game will play like a video game even if its really different.

Did you see what I wrote about what the dev Cage said?  He said it is no longer a video game and I totally agree with him as well on that. Actually I never thought it was a video game. Everything is predetermined, you just have to put in the button command and save your characters life while the story unfolds or die and move on to the next player. It's that simple. This will probably be the fastest title i'll ever finish because of what it is. In that respect, is it worth 60 dollars? I dunno....thats up to you, but I am not buying it. It's not expected to sell very well anyway.

I think you are completely misunderstood on what David Cage is saying.Yes, he has said this really isn't a game. No, the story won't paly out that clear cut. Every game is about button commands so I don't get that comment, at all. The game isn't "that simple" and I'd suggest further research before speaking about it.

In many ways HEAVY RAIN will be similar to Mass Effect, you speak to people and choose different paths you want to take. Difference with HEAVY RAIN, there are MANY different outcomes. David Cage has expressed this time and time again.

 

Do not insult the action RPG greatness that is Mass Effect. Heavy Rain is nothing like it and you know it buddy. Heavy Rain is an interactive movie.



Akvod on 05 January 2010
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:

Watching the latest leaked vids and watching different forums and people's individuals reactions to the latest gameplay movies, i can't help but say that my expectations for the game has been lowered.

Granted, i was very skeptical about the game at first and although i am now a tad bit on the optimistic side, i can't help but say that critical reception for this game will be mixed (mixed meaning low 80s, high 70s) with a 10 on graphics, and a mere 7 for gameplay, and maybe an 8 for the "innovation" part. I would like to be proven wrong, but I think the graphics will be one major thing that will save this game from mediocrity at worst, and at best, it will carve out a niche audience for this movie-game fusion genre (which will include me).  =]

First of all Heavy Rain is not a video game. It was never meant to be a video game and it never will be. The dev said himself it isn't a videogame and the title was inspired by his viewing of Pixars 'Up' with his children and wanted to make a movie title for mature adults that people in their 40's like himself can view without gameplay complications and have an effect on the lives of main protagonists. This IS an interactive mature title that people over the age of 40 should be attracted to, which is why he isn't expecting it to sell amazingly well. He said it was a game, but I knew better and he proved me right when he said it is longer a game. When he told me about his inspiration it sealed the deal.

really? its not a video game? why would they market it as not a video game anyway? if its strictly an interactive movie, it will never sell at 60 dollars. i personally hope the game will play like a video game even if its really different.

Did you see what I wrote about what the dev Cage said?  He said it is no longer a video game and I totally agree with him as well on that. Actually I never thought it was a video game. Everything is predetermined, you just have to put in the button command and save your characters life while the story unfolds or die and move on to the next player. It's that simple. This will probably be the fastest title i'll ever finish because of what it is. In that respect, is it worth 60 dollars? I dunno....thats up to you, but I am not buying it. It's not expected to sell very well anyway.

I think you are completely misunderstood on what David Cage is saying.Yes, he has said this really isn't a game. No, the story won't paly out that clear cut. Every game is about button commands so I don't get that comment, at all. The game isn't "that simple" and I'd suggest further research before speaking about it.

In many ways HEAVY RAIN will be similar to Mass Effect, you speak to people and choose different paths you want to take. Difference with HEAVY RAIN, there are MANY different outcomes. David Cage has expressed this time and time again.

 

Do not insult the action RPG greatness that is Mass Effect. Heavy Rain is nothing like it and you know it buddy. Heavy Rain is an interactive movie.

Dude, it's an adventure game. Give it up. And I don't see why it's an insult to compare a game to Heavy Rain like it's some sort of garbage. I would say that it's not correct to compare two games of different genres.

But then again, you can argue that an RPG at its core is an adventure game with statistics based combat.



S.T.A.G.E. on 05 January 2010
Akvod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:

Watching the latest leaked vids and watching different forums and people's individuals reactions to the latest gameplay movies, i can't help but say that my expectations for the game has been lowered.

Granted, i was very skeptical about the game at first and although i am now a tad bit on the optimistic side, i can't help but say that critical reception for this game will be mixed (mixed meaning low 80s, high 70s) with a 10 on graphics, and a mere 7 for gameplay, and maybe an 8 for the "innovation" part. I would like to be proven wrong, but I think the graphics will be one major thing that will save this game from mediocrity at worst, and at best, it will carve out a niche audience for this movie-game fusion genre (which will include me).  =]

First of all Heavy Rain is not a video game. It was never meant to be a video game and it never will be. The dev said himself it isn't a videogame and the title was inspired by his viewing of Pixars 'Up' with his children and wanted to make a movie title for mature adults that people in their 40's like himself can view without gameplay complications and have an effect on the lives of main protagonists. This IS an interactive mature title that people over the age of 40 should be attracted to, which is why he isn't expecting it to sell amazingly well. He said it was a game, but I knew better and he proved me right when he said it is longer a game. When he told me about his inspiration it sealed the deal.

really? its not a video game? why would they market it as not a video game anyway? if its strictly an interactive movie, it will never sell at 60 dollars. i personally hope the game will play like a video game even if its really different.

Did you see what I wrote about what the dev Cage said?  He said it is no longer a video game and I totally agree with him as well on that. Actually I never thought it was a video game. Everything is predetermined, you just have to put in the button command and save your characters life while the story unfolds or die and move on to the next player. It's that simple. This will probably be the fastest title i'll ever finish because of what it is. In that respect, is it worth 60 dollars? I dunno....thats up to you, but I am not buying it. It's not expected to sell very well anyway.

I think you are completely misunderstood on what David Cage is saying.Yes, he has said this really isn't a game. No, the story won't paly out that clear cut. Every game is about button commands so I don't get that comment, at all. The game isn't "that simple" and I'd suggest further research before speaking about it.

In many ways HEAVY RAIN will be similar to Mass Effect, you speak to people and choose different paths you want to take. Difference with HEAVY RAIN, there are MANY different outcomes. David Cage has expressed this time and time again.

 

Do not insult the action RPG greatness that is Mass Effect. Heavy Rain is nothing like it and you know it buddy. Heavy Rain is an interactive movie.

Dude, it's an adventure game. Give it up. And I don't see why it's an insult to compare a game to Heavy Rain like it's some sort of garbage. I would say that it's not correct to compare two games of different genres.

But then again, you can argue that an RPG at its core is an adventure game with statistics based combat.

Since when in your mind did Heavy Rain become an action adventure game to you? Since when did Cage say it was? He stated in his mind he doesn't even think its a video game anymore. I've been in agreement with this since before he even said it.  



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nen-suer on 05 January 2010
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Akvod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:

Do not insult the action RPG greatness that is Mass Effect. Heavy Rain is nothing like it and you know it buddy. Heavy Rain is an interactive movie.

Dude, it's an adventure game. Give it up. And I don't see why it's an insult to compare a game to Heavy Rain like it's some sort of garbage. I would say that it's not correct to compare two games of different genres.

But then again, you can argue that an RPG at its core is an adventure game with statistics based combat.

Since when in your mind did Heavy Rain become an action adventure game to you? Since when did Cage say it was? He stated in his mind he doesn't even think its a video game anymore. I've been in agreement with this since before he even said it.  

Where in his post does it say ACTION adventure?

You should read carefully CGI, the answer is right there 



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S.T.A.G.E. on 05 January 2010
CGI-Quality said:
@ S.T.A.G.E.

No insults to Mass Effect at all. I don't get your tirade on HEAVY RAIN. Because I know you behave this way towards many PS3 exclusives, I'll ignore it.

Your posting has gone South of late.

I am going to rent it (because when it comes down to it, thats all its worth), but it doesn't mean its not going to be (in its major aspects) a movie. Secondly i've been a hiatus of sorts. I hope it sells at least a million though (because I am a fan of quantic dream), but I know young kids will probably try to get their hands on it because of the mature rating. Kotaku.com is calling Heavy Rains genre an interactive drama. Because of a trophy in the demo that they got which states ::Spoiler:: "Thank you for supporting interactive drama." 



slowmo on 05 January 2010

Perhaps comparing it to QD previous game is just easier CGI lol.

I think Heavy Rain will be a lot of peoples favourite game this generation but it will struggle to get much better than mid 80's critically imo. I'm not saying this because I think the game will be anything less than AAA, more because critics these days aren't very open to thinking outside the box.



Akvod on 05 January 2010

S.T.A.G.E. said:
Akvod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
CGI-Quality said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Dexorosorous said:

Watching the latest leaked vids and watching different forums and people's individuals reactions to the latest gameplay movies, i can't help but say that my expectations for the game has been lowered.

Granted, i was very skeptical about the game at first and although i am now a tad bit on the optimistic side, i can't help but say that critical reception for this game will be mixed (mixed meaning low 80s, high 70s) with a 10 on graphics, and a mere 7 for gameplay, and maybe an 8 for the "innovation" part. I would like to be proven wrong, but I think the graphics will be one major thing that will save this game from mediocrity at worst, and at best, it will carve out a niche audience for this movie-game fusion genre (which will include me).  =]

First of all Heavy Rain is not a video game. It was never meant to be a video game and it never will be. The dev said himself it isn't a videogame and the title was inspired by his viewing of Pixars 'Up' with his children and wanted to make a movie title for mature adults that people in their 40's like himself can view without gameplay complications and have an effect on the lives of main protagonists. This IS an interactive mature title that people over the age of 40 should be attracted to, which is why he isn't expecting it to sell amazingly well. He said it was a game, but I knew better and he proved me right when he said it is longer a game. When he told me about his inspiration it sealed the deal.

really? its not a video game? why would they market it as not a video game anyway? if its strictly an interactive movie, it will never sell at 60 dollars. i personally hope the game will play like a video game even if its really different.

Did you see what I wrote about what the dev Cage said?  He said it is no longer a video game and I totally agree with him as well on that. Actually I never thought it was a video game. Everything is predetermined, you just have to put in the button command and save your characters life while the story unfolds or die and move on to the next player. It's that simple. This will probably be the fastest title i'll ever finish because of what it is. In that respect, is it worth 60 dollars? I dunno....thats up to you, but I am not buying it. It's not expected to sell very well anyway.

I think you are completely misunderstood on what David Cage is saying.Yes, he has said this really isn't a game. No, the story won't paly out that clear cut. Every game is about button commands so I don't get that comment, at all. The game isn't "that simple" and I'd suggest further research before speaking about it.

In many ways HEAVY RAIN will be similar to Mass Effect, you speak to people and choose different paths you want to take. Difference with HEAVY RAIN, there are MANY different outcomes. David Cage has expressed this time and time again.

 

Do not insult the action RPG greatness that is Mass Effect. Heavy Rain is nothing like it and you know it buddy. Heavy Rain is an interactive movie.

Dude, it's an adventure game. Give it up. And I don't see why it's an insult to compare a game to Heavy Rain like it's some sort of garbage. I would say that it's not correct to compare two games of different genres.

But then again, you can argue that an RPG at its core is an adventure game with statistics based combat.

Since when in your mind did Heavy Rain become an action adventure game to you? Since when did Cage say it was? He stated in his mind he doesn't even think its a video game anymore. I've been in agreement with this since before he even said it.  

When I saw the gameplay videos and judged that it fit under the basic definition of an adventure game. I'll use the Wikipedia definition which I think fits pretty nicely: An adventure game is a video game in which the player assumes the role of protagonist in an interactive story that is driven by exploration and puzzle-solving instead of physical challenges such as combat.

Adventure games have a very relaxed criteria. You hate Heavy Rain because you consider it to be just an interactive movie? You'll fucking hate Visual Novels then:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_game#Sub-genres

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_fiction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphic_adventure_game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel

 

Look at the first thing Indigo Prophecy is classified as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_prophecy

 

 

Guess what it is

Fahrenheit

Fahrenheit box cover
Developer(s) Quantic Dream
Publisher(s) Atari
Designer(s) David Cage
Version 1.1 (October 2005)
Platform(s) Xbox, PlayStation 2, Microsoft Windows, Xbox 360 (Xbox Originals)
Release date(s) September 16, 2005 (EU)
September 20, 2005 (US)
December 4, 2007 (Xbox Originals)
Genre(s) Adventure, Psychological Thriller, Psychological Horror
Mode(s) Single-player
Rating(s) ESRB: M, AO (Uncut)
BBFC: 15
OFLC: MA15+
OFLC (NZ): R16
PEGI: 16+
Media DVD
Input methods Keyboard and mouse, Gamepad


Squilliam on 05 January 2010

Oh yeah, first week purchase for me. I think my own critical evaluation of this game is what the rest of the world is waiting for. If Squilliam likes a PS3 exclusive then obviously its the best game in the world.



Tease.