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CDiablo on 03 January 2010
Thechalkblock said:
alfredofroylan said:
Thechalkblock said:
Well, that doesn't mean they won't publish any of them, right?

That's a good point actually, the only Mature title developed by Sega recently is Yazuka, well and Golden Axe wich is terrible and we should not speak about it.

Golden Axe... D:

 

Speaking of Yakuza... I want a western release.

3 is here in March if it makes you fear better.

 

OT: Can someone name me the the numorous major selling on rails shooters/guided fps experience from last gen? Once we get that list we can finally say how big of  a flop DSE was and not what a success some of the Wii rail shooters were.



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ClaudeLv250 on 03 January 2010
jarrod said:
alfredofroylan said:
Thechalkblock said:
Well, that doesn't mean they won't publish any of them, right?

That's a good point actually, the only Mature title developed by Sega recently is Yazuka, well and Golden Axe wich is terrible and we should not speak about it.

3D dot game heroes isn't released in the US unless there is a time machine you wanna lend me. Folklore was meh (repetitive as far as playing both characters goes)

I have so little faith in 3D dot heroes, it's nice to see somebody thinking is going to have good sales here. Folklore was good in my opinion, the camera is horrible but the game designa and music is beautiful

Golden Axe can from this producer's studio btw.  As did Iron Man.  Maybe we should be thankful he's not interested in Wii content...

 

Crisis Averted!

 



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jarrod on 03 January 2010

For reference, here's the VGC totals for all M-rated Sega games so far this gen...

The House of the Dead 2 &3 Return (Wii) 1,130,000
The House of the Dead Overkill (Wii) 480,000
Yakuza 3 (PS3) 480,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (360) 470,000
Condemned: Criminal Origins (360) 460,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (360) 410,000
MadWorld (Wii) 370,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (PS3) 310,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (PS3) 280,000
The Club (360) 240,000
Bayonetta (PS3) 200,000
The Club (PS3) 150,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (360) 120,000
Bayonetta (360) 90,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (PS3) 80,000
Stormrise (360) 50,000
Stormrise (PS3) 50,000
Tenchu: Time of the Assassins (PSP) untracked


Average sales per console...

Wii: 660,000
360: 263,000
PS3: 221,000



famousringo on 03 January 2010
jarrod said:
For reference, here's the VGC totals for all M-rated Sega games so far this gen...

The House of the Dead 2 &3 Return (Wii) 1,130,000
The House of the Dead Overkill (Wii) 480,000
Yakuza 3 (PS3) 480,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (360) 470,000
Condemned: Criminal Origins (360) 460,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (360) 410,000
MadWorld (Wii) 370,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (PS3) 310,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (PS3) 280,000
The Club (360) 240,000
Bayonetta (PS3) 200,000
The Club (PS3) 150,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (360) 120,000
Bayonetta (360) 90,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (PS3) 80,000
Stormrise (360) 50,000
Stormrise (PS3) 50,000
Tenchu: Time of the Assassins (PSP) untracked


Average sales per console...

Wii: 660,000
360: 263,000
PS3: 221,000

It was a pretty fun thread, then you had to go and murder it.

Well, I hope you're pleased with yourself.



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demonfox13 on 03 January 2010
famousringo said:
jarrod said:
For reference, here's the VGC totals for all M-rated Sega games so far this gen...

The House of the Dead 2 &3 Return (Wii) 1,130,000
The House of the Dead Overkill (Wii) 480,000
Yakuza 3 (PS3) 480,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (360) 470,000
Condemned: Criminal Origins (360) 460,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (360) 410,000
MadWorld (Wii) 370,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (PS3) 310,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (PS3) 280,000
The Club (360) 240,000
Bayonetta (PS3) 200,000
The Club (PS3) 150,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (360) 120,000
Bayonetta (360) 90,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (PS3) 80,000
Stormrise (360) 50,000
Stormrise (PS3) 50,000
Tenchu: Time of the Assassins (PSP) untracked


Average sales per console...

Wii: 660,000
360: 263,000
PS3: 221,000

It was a pretty fun thread, then you had to go and murder it.

Well, I hope you're pleased with yourself.

ROFL true. Also it's nice to note that Bayonetta is only out in Japan at the moment. Oh and Yakuza 3 doesn't come out in NA until March (not sure about europe). Hmmm nearly half a million on the tiny install base of the PS3 in Japan alone? I would say I am more than pleased on those sales, too bad I can't say the same for good games like Madworld and great gems like Muramasa: The Demon Blade. :)



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jarrod on 03 January 2010
famousringo said:

It was a pretty fun thread, then you had to go and murder it.

Well, I hope you're pleased with yourself.

lol.  Here, I'll make it even easier on the HD twins by combining them...

 

The House of the Dead 2 &3 Return (Wii) 1,130,000
Condemned 2: Bloodshot (PS360) 780,000
Viking: Battle for Asgard (PS360) 690,000
The House of the Dead Overkill (Wii) 480,000
Yakuza 3 (PS3) 480,000
Condemned: Criminal Origins (360) 460,000
The Club (PS360) 390,000
MadWorld (Wii) 370,000
Bayonetta (PS360) 290,000
Golden Axe: Beast Rider (PS360) 200,000
Stormrise (PS360) 100,000


Average sales per console...

Wii: 660,000
PS360: 424,000



jarrod on 03 January 2010

demonfox13 said:

ROFL true. Also it's nice to note that Bayonetta is only out in Japan at the moment. Oh and Yakuza 3 doesn't come out in NA until March (not sure about europe). Hmmm nearly half a million on the tiny install base of the PS3 in Japan alone? I would say I am more than pleased on those sales, too bad I can't say the same for good games like Madworld and great gems like Muramasa: The Demon Blade. :)

Bayonetta's going to bomb.  Actually, this same producer said he doesn't know how it can appeal to western markets.  He also called Yakuza a niche game... funny, when he talks about M-rated HD Sega games, the excuses seem to start flying. ;)

 

Most of those games haven't gotten worldwide releases yet btw.  Including MadWorld.



TopCat on 03 January 2010

Oh come on... I am a Wii only owner... I love my console of choice. It has great games and so on.. , but I am sick & tired of devs and publishers complaining about their games not selling on the Wii. Quit whining please.
I played TC for some time, it did not interest me at all. You're asking, why exactly Overkill did not sell in the millions like the 2&3 did? Overkill was a full priced game, while 2&3 was $30 from the very beginning. Yes it's that simple.
Madworld on the other hand, gosh, it was fun, but Sega gave us europeans the short end of the stick... Two black bars? Why not full widescreen. S**k it.
As s.b else wrote COD: WAS sold aroun 1.3 million and continues to sell, and
COD:MWR is already at around 400k, only thanks to the word of mouth ( and because it's call of duty ) There was no marketing for Reflex.
So quit whining and start making some effort on the Wii, put some good marketing and miracles will happen, believe me.




arsenicazure on 03 January 2010

The main reason the avg wii game has sold better is mainly bcoz of HOTD..which is pretty much synonymous with rail shooters as it gets... other wii titles have sold on par with the HD twins or lower.. SEGA not going M on the wii prolly has to do more with casual/other games selling better, for eg. Super monkey ball, sonic unleashed, Mario and sonic olympic series. Clearly SEGA is being a lil greedy here but honestly I cant blame them.
A M wii title cant really be ported to any other console(ps360pc) or vice versa.. so its a bit of a gamble..
They have produced some real treats this generation.. I dont agree with this new direction but I can see their point of view...



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5 THINGS I'd like to see before i knock out:

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b. a nintendo developed game that has a "M rating"

c. redesgined PS controller

d. SEGA back in the console business

e. M$ out of the OS business

NJ5 on 03 January 2010
The_vagabond7 said:
There will always be an excuse as to why good to great quality "mature" games don't sell on wii like they do on the HD twins, no one will admit the obvious. That it's a machine that caters to a different audience, it's simple, it's obvious. But no, it's because marketing, or it's niche, or the weird color scheme, or it's not a popular game director anyway, or that's just not a popular genre, or ect. There will always always always be a reason other than the obvious one.

No, actually I'd say the opposite:

There will always be an excuse from publishers as to why certain "mature" games don't sell on the Wii like other "mature" games do, none will admit the obvious. That they don't have the same appeal, marketing or brand name as the "mature" games that have sold well. But no, it's because the Wii has a different audience, or that they only care about first party games, or that the hardcore Wii owners have shifted to buying PS3/360 games. There will always be a reason other than the obvious one.

 



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