Nope...am certain...and I thought it was common knowledge that Castlevania:SOTN was heavily modelled on Metroid...(and it also borrowed a few rpg elements as well). Prior to sotn, castlevania was more of a standard sidescolling 2d platformer with less 'adventure game' elements ie hack and slash through level 1, face a boss, go to level 2 etc.

Hey, am not saying nintendo invented every aspect of modern gaming and all of creation since the dawn of time. Trust me, I'm a big castlevania and metroid fan and am not comparing the 2 series in a detrimental way, but a facts a fact. I even remember being excited about SOTN when I read reviews for it (when it FIRST came out in 97, probably before many of you punks were even born) because the reviewers were comparing it to super metroid (favourably, I should add!)

You guys probably don't think Shadow Complex was a Metroid/Castlevania ripoff either...

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Symphony_of_the_Night

A few RPG elements? a few really?  I would say lots and lots of RPG element.

All individual stats found in hardcore RPGs

Experience and level-up

Familiar level up, learns new abilities

Magic and magic point

Lots of weapon, armor, shield, cloak, relic and useable item

Item to boost your HP and MP

The gameplay is almost nothing like metroid apart that they are both platformers and that you need some items before being able to progress to certain parts of the game.

A guy can't even say one thing without some uppity fanboy cracking a fat.

Jesus I'm outta here.

Life is way too short!

It's a debate. If you don't want to get involved in debates, then maybe you're in the wrong place.

OT: He could mean consoles in general.

Previous Castlevanias have no adventure elements?  Have you played Castlevania 2?  I'm going to guess not, if you say there are no adventure elements, and only hack and slash.  I guess I should just say that Metroid is a complete ripoff of older adventure/platformer games, like Pitfall and H.E.R.O.  Like I said before, not all ideas come from the mind of Miyamoto and Nintendo.  If you're going to claim this, then I'd have to say that every game of Nintendo's and Miyamoto's is a ripoff of an Atari, Intellivision, Colecovision, or Commodore 64 game.  I mean that is where all gaming and pretty much all gaming genres originate from.

How can you compare Miyamoto who can create the same mario wii game in months or a zelda game in maybe a year to a guy who makes the biggest in depth games in general.

And if you haven't noticed NSMBW is nothing new, with two small features added and clunky 4 player co-op plus simple gameplay.

Thats what Nintendo fans need another baby money grabber, well you 15-30 YO out there go play a child's game.

I have a WII and played the it's one of the wors MB games ever and R & C is way better

I can't tell the bigger fanboy........

true story.

Kojima is a great developer, but without this one series, there is not much left. I prefer people that made different franchises in different genres with different audiences. That is way harder than anything else.

Like Peter Molyneux, Shigeru Miyamoto or even Itgaki. So I like Kojima, but he is not the one and only.

@Attoyou: www.sarcasm.com, haha I dunno. would be good though. 

Im keeping a note of people saying that Kojima> Miyamoto  to not get into a discussion with them.