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Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
please, do share.

cause you were blocked

lol, (I'm going to level with you here)If I was the dragon and I was blocked the first day then who blocked me last night? and more importantly, wouldn't someone have called bullshit on me for using the dragon slayer on FF if I was blocked again last night? Also, wouldn't someone had come forward and said they have blocked me the first night?

People really love to believe I'm scum (this time dragon lulz). It's unbelievable the nonsense reasoning people are using against me this game.

I dont know who blocked you last night, probably nobody,  but you claimed you were the Knight's backup,  why didnt the Dragon Kill you????

Did Final-Fan confirm you used dragon slay on him,  cause I dont think that it works that way.   

Why would someone need to come forward and claim they blocked you?  Why didnt you come forward and claim someone blocked you on night 1?  Probably because you have something to hide.

But I am coming forward now,  I blocked you on night 1.  

oh wow quick question before i disect your post.

who did you block  night 2 and 3?

I killed Seraphic_Sixaxis on night 2 and blocked SciFiBoy on night 3

Might as well come forward.

Vetterman is bullshitting.

I was the one who killed seraphic.... 

FoS- Vetterman94

 

I just came back from school, so I haven't read anything else in the thread, just wanted to point this out as I read. So I'll respond to more stuff when I'm done reading. 



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My Role-Claim*

My mistake.

My life is on the line here so if I thought Role-claiming would help, I would do it.



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nordlead said:
Vetteman94 said:
Dgc1808 said:

Me role will really hurt the town.

Your role hurts the town?   Or are you saying role claiming would hurt the town?   Role-Claiming would in no way hurt the town since we have ways of protecting people who are important.  So.........  I guess I am saying you should role-claim and tell us everything you did during the game

here is the conundrum with roleclaiming. You don't want to provide the scum with more information then they already have, however you do want the town to know what you are. If you're unimportant and roleclaim, all I do is help the scum target the important people. Say you have 5 pro-town unknown people and you have a cop & doctor. If you roleclaim townie, all you did was tell the mafia they now have a 1/2 chance of killing an important role rather than a 2/5.

So using myself and the current situation as an example, while we already had a bunch of power roles make claims, maybe I'm more powerful than those already claimed, or maybe I have a protective ability. Does the scum want to take a shot at me? If I'm a useless townie (for example what if I was a 1 shot vig who got blocked), they wasted a night killing someone they could have easily handled later, while right now they have to deal town organizing a giant power strike with a confirmed unknown role. Currently, the bigger threat is to SAK, who is the only confirmed protective role.

so ultimately, roleclaiming can sometimes cause more harm than good. You never want to roleclaim townie (instead you should claim pro-town), but you also should never lie about your role.

Well I dont believe this is one of those times.  Basically, if he doesnt roleclaim and give any relevant information, he is going to die.  If he really is pro-town he will try to help us make the right decision.  Role-claiming does a couple things that would help the town,  give us a better idea what we can accomplish tonight, give us a smaller list of suspects and thus a better chance at getting scum.  As far as I am concerned, anyone who doesnt role-claim when faced with death is probably going to turn up scum. 

c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
Vetteman94 said:

I dont know who blocked you last night, probably nobody,  but you claimed you were the Knight's backup,  why didnt the Dragon Kill you????

Did Final-Fan confirm you used dragon slay on him,  cause I dont think that it works that way.   

Why would someone need to come forward and claim they blocked you?  Why didnt you come forward and claim someone blocked you on night 1?  Probably because you have something to hide.

But I am coming forward now,  I blocked you on night 1.  

oh wow quick question before i disect your post.

who did you block  night 2 and 3?

I killed Seraphic_Sixaxis on night 2 and blocked SciFiBoy on night 3

Might as well come forward.

Vetterman is bullshitting.

I was the one who killed seraphic.... 

FoS- Vetterman94

 

I just came back from school, so I haven't read anything else in the thread, just wanted to point this out as I read. So I'll respond to more stuff when I'm done reading. 

well, this is where things get really interesting.

First off, you could have both targetted seraphic (I've seen it happen before)

second off, what incentive would vetteman have to lie about a night kill and a block, then hatmoza to lie about being anti-mage to protect himself from said lie, then you come in here and claim they are both lieing.

I suggest you hammer DabuddahN and get the day over with before we swing vote someone and regret it




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Vetteman94 said:
nordlead said:
Vetteman94 said:

Your role hurts the town?   Or are you saying role claiming would hurt the town?   Role-Claiming would in no way hurt the town since we have ways of protecting people who are important.  So.........  I guess I am saying you should role-claim and tell us everything you did during the game

here is the conundrum with roleclaiming. You don't want to provide the scum with more information then they already have, however you do want the town to know what you are. If you're unimportant and roleclaim, all I do is help the scum target the important people. Say you have 5 pro-town unknown people and you have a cop & doctor. If you roleclaim townie, all you did was tell the mafia they now have a 1/2 chance of killing an important role rather than a 2/5.

So using myself and the current situation as an example, while we already had a bunch of power roles make claims, maybe I'm more powerful than those already claimed, or maybe I have a protective ability. Does the scum want to take a shot at me? If I'm a useless townie (for example what if I was a 1 shot vig who got blocked), they wasted a night killing someone they could have easily handled later, while right now they have to deal town organizing a giant power strike with a confirmed unknown role. Currently, the bigger threat is to SAK, who is the only confirmed protective role.

so ultimately, roleclaiming can sometimes cause more harm than good. You never want to roleclaim townie (instead you should claim pro-town), but you also should never lie about your role.

Well I dont believe this is one of those times.  Basically, if he doesnt roleclaim and give any relevant information, he is going to die.  If he really is pro-town he will try to help us make the right decision.  Role-claiming does a couple things that would help the town,  give us a better idea what we can accomplish tonight, give us a smaller list of suspects and thus a better chance at getting scum.  As far as I am concerned, anyone who doesnt role-claim when faced with death is probably going to turn up scum. 

Now, I agree with you that for Dgc it isn't one of those times, because if he doesn't it looks like there is a good chance he gets night killed. All roleclaiming for me seems to be if they want to lynch me or DabuddahN. However, at the current time, there are no votes on me, so I see no reason to roleclaim. Heck, I was like 20 minutes late from bypassing the entire issue by throwing down the hammer vote.




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Dgc1808 said:
My Role-Claim*

My mistake.

My life is on the line here so if I thought Role-claiming would help, I would do it.

Role-claiming will help,  I already sent my PM to WoW,  just say the word and I will send another for someone else?



c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
please, do share.

cause you were blocked

lol, (I'm going to level with you here)If I was the dragon and I was blocked the first day then who blocked me last night? and more importantly, wouldn't someone have called bullshit on me for using the dragon slayer on FF if I was blocked again last night? Also, wouldn't someone had come forward and said they have blocked me the first night?

People really love to believe I'm scum (this time dragon lulz). It's unbelievable the nonsense reasoning people are using against me this game.

I dont know who blocked you last night, probably nobody,  but you claimed you were the Knight's backup,  why didnt the Dragon Kill you????

Did Final-Fan confirm you used dragon slay on him,  cause I dont think that it works that way.   

Why would someone need to come forward and claim they blocked you?  Why didnt you come forward and claim someone blocked you on night 1?  Probably because you have something to hide.

But I am coming forward now,  I blocked you on night 1.  

oh wow quick question before i disect your post.

who did you block  night 2 and 3?

I killed Seraphic_Sixaxis on night 2 and blocked SciFiBoy on night 3

Might as well come forward.

Vetterman is bullshitting.

I was the one who killed seraphic.... 

FoS- Vetterman94

 

I just came back from school, so I haven't read anything else in the thread, just wanted to point this out as I read. So I'll respond to more stuff when I'm done reading. 

1) why?

2) if you tell the truth then how do you explain my being cursed? was that you aswel?

3) you only said you killed him, you have not said if you are pro or anti town



nordlead said:
c03n3nj0 said:
Vetteman94 said:
hatmoza said:
Vetteman94 said:

I dont know who blocked you last night, probably nobody,  but you claimed you were the Knight's backup,  why didnt the Dragon Kill you????

Did Final-Fan confirm you used dragon slay on him,  cause I dont think that it works that way.   

Why would someone need to come forward and claim they blocked you?  Why didnt you come forward and claim someone blocked you on night 1?  Probably because you have something to hide.

But I am coming forward now,  I blocked you on night 1.  

oh wow quick question before i disect your post.

who did you block  night 2 and 3?

I killed Seraphic_Sixaxis on night 2 and blocked SciFiBoy on night 3

Might as well come forward.

Vetterman is bullshitting.

I was the one who killed seraphic.... 

FoS- Vetterman94

 

I just came back from school, so I haven't read anything else in the thread, just wanted to point this out as I read. So I'll respond to more stuff when I'm done reading. 

well, this is where things get really interesting.

First off, you could have both targetted seraphic (I've seen it happen before)

second off, what incentive would vetteman have to lie about a night kill and a block, then hatmoza to lie about being anti-mage to protect himself from said lie, then you come in here and claim they are both lieing.

I suggest you hammer DabuddahN and get the day over with before we swing vote someone and regret it

Done reading.

Both targetting can be true, but how does that explain a bunch of different rorles going after Making Music? As for my role-claim, I am also a Black-Mage (pro-town!) so this makes me more suspicious of Vetterman, we already have one Black-Mage, but it is possible there's more than one... 

And I may have been the one who blocked you night one, Nordlead.

Last night I blocked Final-Fan, he never mentioned it, I was a little confused about that, but WoW did say they may not realize it. 

I'll vote Dabuddahn, then, this plan could work. But if the mafia does manga to snick out of being killed at night, then I know who to go after tomorrow. 

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SciFiBoy! Don't kill me tonight! 

 



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c03n3nj0 said:

Done reading.

Both targetting can be true, but how does that explain a bunch of different rorles going after Making Music? As for my role-claim, I am also a Black-Mage (pro-town!) so this makes me more suspicious of Vetterman, we already have one Black-Mage, but it is possible there's more than one... 

And I may have been the one who blocked you night one, Nordlead.

Last night I blocked Final-Fan, he never mentioned it, I was a little confused about that, but WoW did say they may not realize it. 

I'll vote Dabuddahn, then, this plan could work. But if the mafia does manga to snick out of being killed at night, then I know who to go after tomorrow. 

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SciFiBoy! Don't kill me tonight! 

 

You didn't block Final-Fan. He successfully targeted me