I don't think we are at the part where we will see diminishing returns from optimizing 360 or PS3 code yet, especially not the PS3 since cell is a fuckfest to code for.

1.) where was the PC footage? PC version must run like shit compared to the consoles so they can't show it =P

2.) digital foundry.... lol.....

3.) to be fair, this is a better statement from gamasutra, they are aiming for equal, he never said the 360 would have better graphics.

What would you cite as the major performance differences between PS3 and 360? I’ve heard a lot of opinions.

CY: I mean essentially the game we run is about the same. Probably one’s stronger on the GPU side, one’s stronger on the CPU side, so depending on what you’re doing where, the PS3 does perform here sometimes better, the 360 performs other things better, but overall by the time the game ships it’ll be absolutely the same.

also, look at their progress, I think what they are aiming for is reasonable at this point from about 2 months ago(the parts where it doesn't say either system were prolly PC footage:)

of course, nothing can top this shit:

Even though it is not an instant win button, the first mover advantage really does exist and is fairly significant. It (effectively) allows a company to establish a brand, user-base and developer relationships in the absence of competition; and is one of the primary factors why certain consoles have sold better than other consoles even though (in most ways) the earlier console was inferior. After a console generation has become established, it is eventual that one of the console manufacturers will believe that their long term prospects are better with a new console than with the one they're currently working with and they will release a new system.

After a console generation is about 5 years old, and certainly after it has been 5 years since the last console has been released, the early adopters become restless and are very receptive to sales pitches for new technology. As much as many of these people will wildly defend their console and say that it completely suits their needs, many of them will readily line-up for the opportunity to buy the latest technology once they see their favourite games enhanced with the latest technology.

Now, many people would bet on Nintendo being the first mover but I personally think there is a pretty good chance that Microsoft will be out of the gate. I believe this primarily because Microsoft could make it a much more seamless transition than either of their competitors could. Imagine in 2011 Microsoft releases a new console that is fully backwards compatible and will play all XBox 360 games at 1080p @60fps, and at the same time can offer twice the detail and shader performance per pixel at the same resolution and frame rate on exclusive games. For the next 2 to 3 years Microsoft could ensure that decent support continued for the XBox 360 as they convinced developers to steadily move their development to the next console; and 5 to 6 years down the road they could get another seamless transition to the next generation.

While it may not be as sexy as changing architecture repeatedly for maximum theoretical performance, giving developers a reliable timeline for technological upgrades to a familiar architecture while offering consumers a good product at a reasonable value without killing support rapidly is a way to steadily take over the industry.

I can't show you, you need glasses

^This, good work RAZ, there are some real fanboys in this thread, mainly Mike.....

^consoles will always seem to be maxed out or limited to PC devs(who are very memory hungry,) the only thing they can do is keep optimizing their middle-ware for as much as possible much like epic with UE3(.5+, which has come quiet a long way on consoles.)

Eh? I thought you were post modern trolling with that sig showing the visual downing since 2006.

I have two more if you like.

Well I don't see how you could see it as an upgrade.

Cage promised Heavy Rain's Sixaxis controls, fully interactive environments, multiple story paths and no load screens.

Now we gots this Quantic Dream, has told Kotaku that they have worked with Sony to find a way of actually delaying the pop ups, which inform the player about a new Trophy to the loading screen of the game,

What the heck dude?

1. If you're saying that the second picture is a downgrade from the first pic, then I don't know what you're talking about. You could be alone on that one.

2. You do know that this loading screen could be just when you're loading a saved game, returning to the main menu, or starting a new game, right? If there is no install, then there's your answer, because it's the same case with Uncharted 2. The only loading screen is when you load a game or start a new one. Other than that, the game runs smoothly and with no load times at all. Now if there is an install, well, that's a different story. Point is, it's premature to tell at this point.

Edit: Also, I couldn't find a thing about your post regarding what Cevat said about the PS3 other than "It may run slightly better on PS3". Also, the maxing out could just mean it's using all of the PS3's hardware, not meaning that it's optimized the code to max.

Lol so comparing the same character with +4 years extra development = "agenda"?

lol

Wait ...are you saying you have a "heavy rain" was downgraded agenda due to your sig?

Neat, i'm glad you see it now.

btw, listen to the guy carefully, yeah....

So, if I heard correctly, Cevat basically said "The PS3 is the lowest common denominator for a lot of other developers, but I feel we've made great use of its technology", which would mean RAZurrection took his quote out of context.