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OT: I didn't like KZ2. The single player campaign was boring for the most part, and the story and characters were lacking. As for the multiplayer, it had some nice ideas, but there were a couple of issues. The assualt class was way overpowered, and the spawn grenades were a stupid idea. This pretty much encouraged camping.

The controls are just bad though.  Bad button layout, and the whole idea of accelerating the crosshair and then allowing it to slow down is just not implemented right.  In real life, sure there is a very very slight moment of acceleration, but the amount they added to the game was just way too much.  It made the sensitivity settings way off.  It was ok for shooting people at mid distance, but people far away you had it was hard to make minor adjustments to, and it made turning and melee combat in very close quarters an annoying task.  And don't even get me started with input delay.  That's the one major thing that I always hated about Halo was the long input delay and Killzone 2 had to have it too   Although, I stopped playing before any of the patches came out to fix the controls so perhaps now in their final form they are much better

Call Of Duty 4 > Killzone 2 > Modern Warfare 2.

Disagree. Killzone is a great game but I think MW2 is miles ahead in the online. There are so many options and customizations its crazy really!

What's with all the Modern Warfare 2 hate in this thread anyways?

Okay I get its kind of a noob game (noob tube, rocket launchers, etc) and campers run rampant but you can't blame IW for that; you can only blame the people playing.

IW did there best to make good maps, tons of new killstreak bonuses, some new guns, new attachments for guns, new camos, titles/emblems, prestige rewards, etc. I admit its sort of Modern Warfare 1.5 but it is a lot improved over CoD4.

I most certainly can and will blame IW for the campers. Two simple fixes would make camping useless, but i'm beginning to wonder if they are going to do it. 

Just for interests sake what are the 2 fixes? You can't just say there are 2 and then not name them. Lol

I'll try and think of some ideas, I have none now.

I'd say the two are not even close, with Modern Warfare 1 or 2 destroying KZ2.

Of course, I'm not exactly a fan of KZ2. The game just isn't my type of shooter - the controls in particular annoy me more than anything else.

@dharh

I don't think anything you could do could stop people from standing in one spot for however long they choose. You can't force them to move every so often because then what about noobs that don't know how to use the controls yet, or what if you are genuinely cornered and it is best NOT to move? That'd not be a good solution.

I wish I had MW2.... KZ2 is good, but not great, to me anyway.