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Aion on 20 December 2009

Yeah it can do it ww.



 

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invetedlotus123 on 21 December 2009

I mean, even PSP with tons of piracy already has a 3rd party 5 million seller. GTA:LCS.

I don't if nintendo cares at all, but, this barrier for 3rd party in their console was what made the ps1 so atractive for 3rd party studios, and don't come saying that because they don't make good games. Look at Xbox x GC multiplataform, they performed much better in the Xbox 1 than in GC.



Solid_Snake4RD on 21 December 2009
TheSource said:

Final Fantasy XII did 1,441,000 day one according to Sinobi, while Square-Enix is claiming Final Fantasy XIII did ~1,000,000 day one. It will beat FFXII worldwide, but most PS3 games end up lower than their PS2 counterparts in Japan by 25-35%.

and they didn't say 1m copies sold.they said over 1m.later numbers were revealed that it sold a bit more than 1.1m excluding the 200k bundles launched



jarrod on 21 December 2009
invetedlotus123 said:
I mean, even PSP with tons of piracy already has a 3rd party 5 million seller. GTA:LCS.

I don't if nintendo cares at all, but, this barrier for 3rd party in their console was what made the ps1 so atractive for 3rd party studios, and don't come saying that because they don't make good games. Look at Xbox x GC multiplataform, they performed much better in the Xbox 1 than in GC.

What made PS1 attractive was it's ease of development and super low royalty rates, not a lack of 1st party competition.  The best selling PS1 game is 1st party even (GT).

And yes, 3rd parties get out of Wii exactly what they put in.  Wii also has a 3rd party 7 million seller already.



invetedlotus123 on 21 December 2009
jarrod said:
invetedlotus123 said:
I mean, even PSP with tons of piracy already has a 3rd party 5 million seller. GTA:LCS.

I don't if nintendo cares at all, but, this barrier for 3rd party in their console was what made the ps1 so atractive for 3rd party studios, and don't come saying that because they don't make good games. Look at Xbox x GC multiplataform, they performed much better in the Xbox 1 than in GC.

What made PS1 attractive was it's ease of development and super low royalty rates, not a lack of 1st party competition.  The best selling PS1 game is 1st party even (GT).

And yes, 3rd parties get out of Wii exactly what they put in.  Wii also has a 3rd party 7 million seller already.

I don't think it's a good idea to call a game with Mario in the name a 3rd party...



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.jayderyu on 21 December 2009

I don't see it happening. I can understand the hopeful wanting it to beat 12, but looking at 12 sales theres a reason it did well. It did get core sales and it had plenty gift room and just general consumers. On the PS3 it has it's core audiance again, but it doesn't have the same percentage for gifts and general consumer. The only way it could sell more is that the FF Core fan base is greater than that of PS2 gift and general consumer base. Which we know it isn't.

Heck as ancecdotal. I pre ordered FF12 and I have NEVER preordered any FF game before. I don't even have 10,10-2. This gen I passed on the PS3, though I will pick one up when they hit $100 at the end of it's life time. I'm only 1 person, but I am 1 person that represent a percetage of people(unknown percentage) that won't be getting the game until the PS4 is out.

So I stand by it. The shrinking elite gaming community firmly standing it's ground that fewer core consumers is greater than more consumers. It's a bizzar though that's rarely ever pans out, but hey.



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jarrod on 21 December 2009
invetedlotus123 said:
jarrod said:
invetedlotus123 said:
I mean, even PSP with tons of piracy already has a 3rd party 5 million seller. GTA:LCS.

I don't if nintendo cares at all, but, this barrier for 3rd party in their console was what made the ps1 so atractive for 3rd party studios, and don't come saying that because they don't make good games. Look at Xbox x GC multiplataform, they performed much better in the Xbox 1 than in GC.

What made PS1 attractive was it's ease of development and super low royalty rates, not a lack of 1st party competition.  The best selling PS1 game is 1st party even (GT).

And yes, 3rd parties get out of Wii exactly what they put in.  Wii also has a 3rd party 7 million seller already.

I don't think it's a good idea to call a game with Mario in the name a 3rd party...

It was developed and published by a 3rd party, that's really all that matters.  Besides, Wii already has over 40 3rd party million sellers, it's not like Mario & Sonic is the only appreciable success there.  How many 3rd party million sellers does PSP have again? How many did it have in it's first 3 years?

Also, plenty of 3rd party games sold comparably or better on GameCube versus Xbox (CVS2, Soulcalibur 2, Burnout 1-2, Sonic series, etc).