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twesterm on 17 December 2009
Xen said:
nofingershaha said:
Entire kingdom = statistic.

Palom and Porum = kids = annoyance

Aerith = potential love interest + we were young and innocent then = HEARTBREAK!!!!!

That's pretty much an answer to your question, tehsage. That is absolutely correct.

Palom and Porum were terribly annoying, and mostly useless, too.

WHAT!?

I don't know what you were doing when you were playing that game but you were doing it wrong.



 

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Crystalchild on 17 December 2009

as edjevink said,

you're gaining sympathy towards Aeris (i believe she was renamed before Crisis Core, im not Sure), and that is needed for deeper emotion.

Its like the Shinra Soldiers, you know them as Enemy, so you give a damn about their family's. The same thing with People you dont know in general: you dont know them, so you dont care about them.



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Xen on 17 December 2009
twesterm said:
Xen said:
nofingershaha said:
Entire kingdom = statistic.

Palom and Porum = kids = annoyance

Aerith = potential love interest + we were young and innocent then = HEARTBREAK!!!!!

That's pretty much an answer to your question, tehsage. That is absolutely correct.

Palom and Porum were terribly annoying, and mostly useless, too.

WHAT!?

I don't know what you were doing when you were playing that game but you were doing it wrong.

Using Tellah instead ;)



Edouble24 on 17 December 2009
twesterm said:
Edouble24 said:
The way it was done is shocking. Aeris dies and does NOT come back. She seemed to be the main love interest in the game and the primary party healer with no replacement. Sephiroth also destroyed an entire village in the same exact game, killing Cloud's mother and Tifa's father, yet it's not as big of a deal because we didn't spend any time with them. We just know that event helped shape Cloud and Tifa into the characters that they are, Aeris we got to know and love/hate. It's also FFVII.

THe thing with Sephiroth burning the village, it just didn't seem to matter.  The act of burning the village was overshadowed by other things and you just didn't think about that, you were thinking about Sephiroth what the fuck he was up to and what was Cloud's past.  You were just so disconnected from it.

With Kefka and Doma, it was purely focused on Kefka and his horrible act.  Later, you directly experienced the aftermath of that act and it was just an incredibly moving piece. Everything you did, Cyan in Doma, the camp, and the phantom train, was all because of what Kefka did.

Watch my above link if you don't believe me.

Final Fantasy VI is the first FF game I've ever played...I don't need to watch a link. I'm not saying the Aeris scene moved me the most, it didn't, but I can see why that's more personal for many people than anything else Kefka or Sephiroth did. It stands out for a reason other than people are ignorant. That's all I'm saying.



V-r0cK on 17 December 2009
tehsage said:

Alright, so, Aerith dies in FF7. Yes, I'm pretty everyone and their mother knows that by now. However, I'm a little curious as to why her death bothered people so much versus what has happened in other Final Fantasys.

For instance, in Final Fantasy VI, an entire kingdom is killed. AN ENTIRE KINGDOM. Pshh, we don't care about them. We only care about party members!

I'm playing Final Fantasy IV right now. It's my first time, so, no extra spoilers please. Anyhow, three people in my party have died so far. Two of which were fucking children. TWO KIDS SACRIFICE THEMSELVES. Aerith is killed. "OMG NOOOOO" Two children die. "Who cares?"

 

>__>; Thoughts?

1.  Cause Cloud and Aerith seemed to be close....but its actually a good thing cause really she'll forever be Zack's girl

2.  My main reason, spending dam long time levelling her up and trying to get her Limit Breaks etc. Waste of time! lol XD



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deskpro2k3 on 17 December 2009

Cloud and Aerith was together.

Cloud never forgave himself after what happened.

Aerith had the power to summon the only thing that could stop Meteor, and kill Sephiroth.



Majin-Tenshinhan on 17 December 2009
twesterm said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
tehsage said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
"For instance, in Final Fantasy VI, an entire kingdom is killed. AN ENTIRE KINGDOM. Pshh, we don't care about them. We only care about party members!"

Well, uh, yeah. Now this may sound insensitive, but I think you would be more personally affected if someone close to you that you know died than if a thousand people somewhere far away you've never met die.

One of your party members loses his family to that.

Yeah, so your party member knows them ... But you don't. Btw, no spoilers as to who or what or anything like that please, I have yet to play FF6 properly but I am fully planning to.

What are you waiting for!?

Stop hanging around here and play FFVI Advance!

I always thought you were a huge RPG fan for some reason and you haven't played one of the best RPG's ever? o.O

I'm not really a huge RPG fan, but I play them fairly regularly. And I know, I actually have played FF6 but not very far, but ... I don't really want to play it on an emulator, and I don't really want to play it on my DS either, I'd rather play it on my TV which is why I got really hopeful when Square said they'd release FF1-6 on the Virtual Console way back in like February, but then they just suddenly stopped after releasing FF4 >_>



twesterm on 17 December 2009
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
twesterm said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
tehsage said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
"For instance, in Final Fantasy VI, an entire kingdom is killed. AN ENTIRE KINGDOM. Pshh, we don't care about them. We only care about party members!"

Well, uh, yeah. Now this may sound insensitive, but I think you would be more personally affected if someone close to you that you know died than if a thousand people somewhere far away you've never met die.

One of your party members loses his family to that.

Yeah, so your party member knows them ... But you don't. Btw, no spoilers as to who or what or anything like that please, I have yet to play FF6 properly but I am fully planning to.

What are you waiting for!?

Stop hanging around here and play FFVI Advance!

I always thought you were a huge RPG fan for some reason and you haven't played one of the best RPG's ever? o.O

I'm not really a huge RPG fan, but I play them fairly regularly. And I know, I actually have played FF6 but not very far, but ... I don't really want to play it on an emulator, and I don't really want to play it on my DS either, I'd rather play it on my TV which is why I got really hopeful when Square said they'd release FF1-6 on the Virtual Console way back in like February, but then they just suddenly stopped after releasing FF4 >_>

Unless you have a SNES, the only version you can play on a TV is the PS version and that version, just like the Chrono Trigger version, is God awful.  The load times are just painful.



 

Majin-Tenshinhan on 17 December 2009
twesterm said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
twesterm said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
tehsage said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:
"For instance, in Final Fantasy VI, an entire kingdom is killed. AN ENTIRE KINGDOM. Pshh, we don't care about them. We only care about party members!"

Well, uh, yeah. Now this may sound insensitive, but I think you would be more personally affected if someone close to you that you know died than if a thousand people somewhere far away you've never met die.

One of your party members loses his family to that.

Yeah, so your party member knows them ... But you don't. Btw, no spoilers as to who or what or anything like that please, I have yet to play FF6 properly but I am fully planning to.

What are you waiting for!?

Stop hanging around here and play FFVI Advance!

I always thought you were a huge RPG fan for some reason and you haven't played one of the best RPG's ever? o.O

I'm not really a huge RPG fan, but I play them fairly regularly. And I know, I actually have played FF6 but not very far, but ... I don't really want to play it on an emulator, and I don't really want to play it on my DS either, I'd rather play it on my TV which is why I got really hopeful when Square said they'd release FF1-6 on the Virtual Console way back in like February, but then they just suddenly stopped after releasing FF4 >_>

Unless you have a SNES, the only version you can play on a TV is the PS version and that version, just like the Chrono Trigger version, is God awful.  The load times are just painful.

I'm trying to wait for the VC version, but since they never even talk about it and it'll take ages before it's out, I'm slowly considering getting the GBA version... Even though I really want to play it on my TV >_>. The longing to play it is slowly wearing me down.



Son1x on 17 December 2009

The PS1 version of FFVI doesn't exist in PAL.
FF Anthology in NA has FF V and FF VI, in PAL regions, it has FF IV and FF V.



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